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megallica
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 2429 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Rock Band 3 FC Breakdown (PRO) |
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this is how i would arrange the earlier part of the list
1. Need You Tonight
2. Before I Forget
3. The Beautiful People
4. Rainbow in the Dark
5. Whip It
6. Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This Before
7. Combat Baby
8. Rock Lobster
9. Just Like Heaven
10. Werewolves of London
11. Foolin
12. Oh My God
13. Radar Love
14. The Con
i've gotten 100% with an overhit on Oh My God three times, but i couldn't get the FC for it
i FCed the 11 songs that i put below it during the first week that RB3 was out, and i tried the other lower tiered songs, so to me those were the 11 easiest
the biggest move that i made was Foolin, which i don't really think is hard enough to justify being at #26 on the current list when i can't FC #14-25 the way it's organized now (which looks like it's by tier)
to be fair, i had a really hard time with three note chords, especially ones that are spaced out along the keyboard since my hands are a little to small to reach everything, so anyone that is good at those might organize things differently
also, i don't really have any piano experience so i'm sure my technique isn't very good
i can't really say anything about the organization farther down the list because i'm not good enough to do any of it on pro keys _________________
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anonymous_25
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 Posts: 0
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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raunch99
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 712 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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I'm still working my way through all the pro key songs. For songs I've done recently I'd say The Look is definitely easier than where you have it and 20th Century Boy is more difficult...the solo at the end is tricky.
One way to do it would be to check the number of 100% for each song on the leaderboards and see where that gets you. Obviously not all 100% are FCs but it should get you in the ballpark for the more difficult songs. _________________
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googleimage
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1229
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Need You Tonight, unquestionably #1. I agree with BiF at #2 and Beautiful People at #3. Radar Love is giving me headaches, and Humanoid has several sections of quick notes that are quite difficult to hit - while Oye Mi Amor has some even faster, even harder notes right at the start (the rest of the song is rather simple though). Imagine is easier than its tiering IMO - other than those quick 3 note spurts, it's quite tame.
I think Llama and Roundabout would be the clear-cut hardest FC's, but I'm not sure what order: Roundabout is gonzo throughout, but only contains about 30 seconds of Llama-esque randomness. Most of Roundabout has some semblance of a pattern to it. _________________
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werelord
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 1494
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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:12 am Post subject: |
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googleimage wrote: | I think Llama and Roundabout would be the clear-cut hardest FC's, but I'm not sure what order: Roundabout is gonzo throughout, but only contains about 30 seconds of Llama-esque randomness. Most of Roundabout has some semblance of a pattern to it. |
Roundabout is hardest without question. It has constant zigzags weird fills the insane arpedgio section and then if you somehow make it through that 2 key solos it is much harder then Llama. _________________
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googleimage
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1229
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like Imagine's listed twice, and Walk Of Life is the missing piece. I think I'm gonna start putting together a 5* list as well. _________________
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sycocoaster
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 567 Location: Utah
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'll give you the full list as I see it here. (As a side note, I will say that this is based on playing almost exclusively one-handed, so some songs may be easier with two than I rank them here.)
1. Need You Tonight
2. Before I Forget
3. The Beautiful People
4. Rainbow in the Dark
5. Whip It
6. Stop Me if You Think You've Heard This Before
7. Combat Baby
8. Rock Lobster
9. Just Like Heaven
(no changes, this part seems pretty refined )
10. I Love Rock N'Roll (I personally find this one to be much easier.)
11. Oh My God
12. Foolin'
13. The Con
14. Radar Love
15. In the Meantime
16. Heart of Glass
17. Last Dance
18. Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Pt. 1
19. Werewolves of London
20. Imagine
21. Here I Go Again
22. Everybody Wants to Rule the World
23. Oye Mi Amor
24. Walk of Life
25. Living in America
26. Get Up, Stand Up
27. Killing Loneliness
28. Midlife Crisis
29. Don't Stand So Close to Me
30. Crosstown Traffic
31. Low Rider
32. Walking on the Sun (glissandos are HARD, ok)
33. Humanoid (fast percussive notes aren't easy either)
34. I Need to Know
35. Good Vibrations (Live)
36. The Power of Love
37. Portions for Foxes
38. Space Oddity
39. Something Bigger, Something Brighter
40. In A Big Country (framing 3 chords is not that hard, come on!)
41. Break on Through (The Other Side)
42. The Look
43. The Killing Moon (ending is a nightmare!)
44. Cold As Ice
45. Centerfold
46. Du Hast
47. I Got You (I Feel Good) (Live)
48. 25 or 6 to 4
49. Sister Christian
50. 20th Century Boy
51. This Bastard's Life
52. Dead End Friends
53. Me Enamora
54. Bohemian Rhapsody
55. China Grove
56. Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting
57. Rehab (ugh grace notes are way more difficult than any kind of chord changes)
58. Free Bird
59. Smoke on the Water (really only has 2 or 3 very difficult parts)
60. Fly Like an Eagle
61. Antibodies (I'm just terrible at this song relative to everyone else)
62. Llama
63. Roundabout
I deliberated over this list a lot so I'm pretty sure of it. Also I have lots and lots of piano experience, so that probably had a heavy influence here. _________________
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bclare
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 6048 Location: Boston
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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sycocoaster wrote: | 61. Antibodies (I'm just terrible at this song relative to everyone else) |
That's one in particular that I think most people use two hands for, 1-handing that would be ridiculous. It's hard either way, but it would be ranked lower if you assume people use two hands. _________________
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megallica
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 2429 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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sycocoaster wrote: |
19. Werewolves of London |
i'm really surprised you put Werewolves of London so high
the entire song is that same easy 10 second long part looped throughout the song
the only hard part is at the end when it changes up slightly and they add this little extra part into it
obviously freticons aren't made for pro keys, but it looks kind of like that
i have no piano experience at all, and i got it after an hour or two after trying it for the first time the week RB3 came out
i really don't think it can compare to the difficulty of In The Meantime
i would say it's easier than Oh My God or I Love Rock And Roll too, since they have a lot of triple chords and Werewolves Of London is all double chords in a pretty simple pattern _________________
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malictus
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree. Werewolves was EXTREMELY frustrating for me to FC. There are just enough changes so that as soon as you zone out and start not paying attention, there's an extra note or two. _________________
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blingdomepiece
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 4358 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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sycocoaster wrote: |
23. Oye Mi Amor
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I believe this should be higher due to the B-note mashing at the start. I have yet to hit that.
Quote: | 25. Living in America |
Would probably put this lower.
Quote: | 41. Break on Through (The Other Side) |
Would probably lower this a bit too.
Might raise this a bit, I find the opening solo with the descending black note pairs quite hard. _________________
Expert Pro Keys: 50/63 GS, most recent The Killing Moon
Expert Pro Drums: 53/83 GS, most recent Free Bird / Oh My God / Oye Mi Amor
Expert Pro Bass: 6/83 GS, most recent Everybody Wants to Rule the World
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malictus
Joined: 19 Jun 2006 Posts: 994 Location: Bloomington, IN
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megallica
Joined: 22 Jun 2007 Posts: 2429 Location: Woodbridge, VA
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:00 am Post subject: |
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malictus wrote: | I disagree. Werewolves was EXTREMELY frustrating for me to FC. There are just enough changes so that as soon as you zone out and start not paying attention, there's an extra note or two. |
to me, that sort of justification doesn't matter for an FC breakdown
being inattentive may cause you to need to play it a few extra times, but the actual sections are still easy to hit
the other songs i mentioned require a higher level of skill to FC
it's possible to FC Werewolves Of London and be completely unable to FC Oh My God or In The Meantime. the reverse is less likely to be true
in your case, it took longer to FC Werewolves of London, but you can FC the other songs too, you just weren't paying attention
it's along the same lines as the people that say So What'cha Want is hard to FC on Bass because it's boring. there's nothing hard about the chart, you just have to pay attention _________________
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sycocoaster
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 567 Location: Utah
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:21 am Post subject: |
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My reason for putting Werewolves so high is exactly what Malictus said. Technical difficulty is not the only factor in a FC. Being able to hit every section in a song is quite different from hitting all of them in one run. I had to restart that song so many times just because I would get lost in the repetition and make a simple mental error. If this doesn't plague you, then you are lucky. Also, the difficult part of the song is at the very end, which is only asking for a choke.
Nerves are a huge part of playing perfectly, and they can easily get the better of you.
Oye Mi Amor - you have a pretty good point. I just figured the only difficult part is at the start, so you just restart until you get that.
Living in America - That bridge part was pretty tricky to get down perfectly. It's kind of another section where you will get lost without being overly attentive.
Break on Through - there's a 5 note glissando that I missed OVER and OVER that comes right after a few chords. I find it quite challenging actually. That's not the only hard part, either. I can't really see anything below it that I would move up...
Cold As Ice - I think that because the solo is all black notes it is particularly easy. I remember only missing it just a few times, and now it's quite easy for me. Also, it's at the beginning.
I...don't recall any 3 note chords in I Love Rock n' Roll, which is slower in tempo than Werewolves. I FC'd ILRnR on my second playthrough, which I don't think I did even with Before I Forget, The Beautiful People, Stop Me, or Just Like Heaven. _________________
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