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socialskills
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 589
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: Destroyer Pedal sensor problem? |
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I've had the Destroyer Pedal since June of 2009, and in my opinion it's the best aftermarket pedal out there, when it's working properly. However, since June of this year, my Destroyer has exhibited an odd overhitting a problem, and I have a theory about what's going on but I'd appreciate some second opinions.
What happens is that after playing 2-3 hour sessions for 2-3 days in a row, the pedal overhits uncontrollably while in the down position. I would say that for every 3-5 seconds that I'm holding the pedal down, it overhits. Then, if I don't use the pedal for the next 2 days or so, the next time I play it works just fine.
First of all, has anyone else had this problem? I've searched through the forum and can't find anything similar.
Second, what could the problem be? My theory is that there's something wrong with the sensor. I can't see any physical damage on any part of the pedal, and I've adjusted the foot board towards and away from the sensor and this does not seem to affect the frequency of the overhitting at all.
I e-mailed both Mark at Destroyer and RockBandParts.com (I bought it from them) in June and, 3 months later, have not received a response from either. Any thoughts from the community on this? _________________
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JOE2210
Joined: 19 Apr 2009 Posts: 2480 Location: In the Gagasphere
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Have you tried emailing Ryan on his alternate email? He's had issues recently so he's asking for all emails to be sent to xcellpads@gmail.com. _________________
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Xepher850
Joined: 09 Jul 2009 Posts: 1294
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Destroyer Pedal sensor problem? |
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socialskills wrote: | I've had the Destroyer Pedal since June of 2009, and in my opinion it's the best aftermarket pedal out there, when it's working properly. However, since June of this year, my Destroyer has exhibited an odd overhitting a problem, and I have a theory about what's going on but I'd appreciate some second opinions.
What happens is that after playing 2-3 hour sessions for 2-3 days in a row, the pedal overhits uncontrollably while in the down position. I would say that for every 3-5 seconds that I'm holding the pedal down, it overhits. Then, if I don't use the pedal for the next 2 days or so, the next time I play it works just fine.
First of all, has anyone else had this problem? I've searched through the forum and can't find anything similar.
Second, what could the problem be? My theory is that there's something wrong with the sensor. I can't see any physical damage on any part of the pedal, and I've adjusted the foot board towards and away from the sensor and this does not seem to affect the frequency of the overhitting at all.
I e-mailed both Mark at Destroyer and RockBandParts.com (I bought it from them) in June and, 3 months later, have not received a response from either. Any thoughts from the community on this? |
Mark isn't exactly good at replying to customer questions. And RBP discontinued carrying Destroyer Pedals a while ago. _________________
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RockBandParts
Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 447
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Although we do not carry Destroyer Pedals, I am still making sure that all of my customers are getting the warranty they were promised from Destroyer Pedals.
To be honest, this is ONE of the reasons why we no longer carry Destroyer Pedals. With their lack of customer support, and the lack or response for warranty replacements, I just couldnt continue to carry the pedal any longer.
But that is really besides the point... You have a Pedal that you bought, and you need it fixed, period. Can you please send me a PM with the last name on the order? I will send Mark (Owner of Destroyer Pedals) an email and ask him to get a hold of you ASAP, and get you fixed up.
FYI: I just sent you a PM - You can simply reply back with that info
Thanks! _________________
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socialskills
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 589
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, dude. I didn't mean to suggest in my OP that RBP was being unresponsive, so I apologize if it was taken that way. I also erroneously claimed that it's been 3 months since I sent e-mails, but it's only been 2.
It's laudable that you are still supporting previous customers on a product that you no longer carry, so thanks for that. We'll see what happens next.
Even though I've gotten a response in terms of support, I'm still curious if anyone else has had this problem with the pedal. Anyone out there? _________________
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RockBandParts
Joined: 03 Mar 2009 Posts: 447
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Destroyer Pedals does have an "Instructional Video" - You can see if you learn anything from it. May need to just adjust it a bit ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqJFOJQxElw _________________
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socialskills
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I've watched the video a few times. Basically what it tells you is about adjusting the pedal at the crossbar for differing sensitivity. I sort of alluded to that in my OP, that those kinds of adjustments seemed to have no effect _________________
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RockBandParts
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:13 am Post subject: |
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socialskills wrote: | Yeah, I've watched the video a few times. Basically what it tells you is about adjusting the pedal at the crossbar for differing sensitivity. I sort of alluded to that in my OP, that those kinds of adjustments seemed to have no effect |
Yeah, i didnt think it would either, but I thought I would give it a shot, lol!
I copied you onto the email I sent to Mark, so hopefully we hear something in the next day or so. _________________
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socialskills
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Update: Although I noticed another thread in this forum where a customer stated that they had an e-mail response and will receive their pedal soon, I still haven't gotten a response regarding warranty support.
Meanwhile, the sensor on my Destroyer is now in a state of total malfunction, as even after a week of rest it will overhit at any position, and it has now started missing hits for the first time as well.
The good news is that I can give huge thanks to Ryan at RockBandParts.com for all of his effort in helping me with the Destroyer problem. Though we still weren't able to get a response from Mark, Ryan's efforts at helping me get this solved went way above and beyond, resulting in an extremely happy customer. Thanks. _________________
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Ryoandr
Joined: 07 Dec 2009 Posts: 15
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have a theory behind your malfunction. Since I don't have a destroyer pedal, I cannot affirm it's THE cause. But based on pictures, here I go :
The sensors used are normally set in a parallel way, but on the destroyer they are set perpendicular. This might make the magnetic field close the reed switch at a very precise distance and position. After some playing, the rubber stopper has deformed and allows the magnet to go past the position, resulting in another hit when you lift your foot and the pedal goes back in initial position. Stop playing for a while and the rubber recovers some of it's elasticity and form. But after a while, the rubber stopper is so deformed that every time you kick it will go past the closing position.
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TopazGrl
Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 932
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious... Have you tried flipping the sensor upside down? Last year, I was having issues with my sensor and Mark told me to do that and it worked like new again. Mind you, you'll have to readjust the magnet and this is only a temporary fix and will probably start failing again in a month or two but it does help greatly. _________________
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