Drum Rolls Help

**Weebs** · Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Michigan

I searched and didn't really find much specifically covering how to do drum rolls.

I'm stuck on the songs Don't Fear The Reaper (Hard) and The Hand That Feeds (Expert) simply because I can't do rolls. Practice does not seem to help, it seems like I can usually 100% a fairly fast roll up until 70 or 80% speed. I'm able to do fairly fast parts with either my left or right hand just fine, but not with the two at the same time. Are there any drummers that could give me some advice on how to do steady and timed rolls?
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**sknysklz** · Joined: 28 May 2007 Posts: 487

i am stuck on dont fear the reaper because of the drum rolls too but i didnt have overdrive going into them so i figure if i do that ill be able to pass easy if that helps you at all...but yea i too need some serious help with drum rolls because i can't get through like 40% of run to the hills on hard
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**.GH** · Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 571 Location: Biddeford, Maine

I could also use help on Rolls.

I mean, I can usually make it through them unles its like Run to the Hills or something, but barely.

My hands cannot comprehend alternating hits, they always end up going at the same time.

**warlock7735** · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:23 am Post subject:

Orange Crush expert was my roll training song. Don't know how useful it'll be to you, but at the very least it's fun to play.
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**KuroShinnen** · Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Delaware

Orange Crush is 5th tier.

I am stuck on it on expert though, so, I'm going to have to practice it for a bit.

**Weebs** · Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Michigan

Well with overdrive I was able to beat the ending of The Hand That Feeds. I have no trouble on the beginning (in fact I usually have a 4x multiplier going), but just the extended rolls at the end. I beat Orange Crush on my first try, but I was in red/yellow pretty much the entire song. Green Grass and High Tides I'm able to do the roll on the blue just fine with one hand, defiantly pretty tiring though.
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**warlock7735** · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject:

If you're having issues passing orange crush, then maybe try Maps. The 16ths in the verse are hittable with one hand, but try bringing your other hand over to hit the offbeat.
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**Weebs** · Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 16 Location: Michigan

I usually don't have a problem hitting quick short things, like the intro on Nine Inch Nails or the 16th notes on maps, just the very the long rolls like Orange Crush, The Hand That Feeds, and Don't Fear The Reaper. I'm going to try and practice my rolls on Orange Crush in a bit.
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**KuroShinnen** · Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Delaware

Just beat orange crush, and I must say, I am quite a bit more comfortable with rolls and the bass petal at the same time. Great training song.

**IBitePrettyHard** · Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 233 Location: Virginia

A "drum roll" is typically a fast pattern played: RRLLRRLL, two beats per hand.

The fast patterns in these songs aren't necessarily considered "rolls", but just fast 16th note patterns. These are typically played with a RLRLRLRLR sticking. This can also be considered a "single-stroke roll" but it's more commonly referred to as "just fast". lol.

On songs like Run To The Hills, I actually use paradiddles RLRR LRLL RLRR LRLL" for the fast Red notes instead of alternating hands, and I use paradiddle-diddles during the section when its just Red + Bass drum. The pattern is RLRRLL-RLRRLL-RLRR-LRLLRR-LRLLRR-LRLL....etc
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**BurntOut** · Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 120

**warlock7735** · Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:28 am Post subject:

The problem is that the term "roll" in itself is very ambiguous, and most drumming nubs just say "it's 16th+ notes, it's a roll."
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