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Zgf72
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:45 pm Post subject: Gold stars on Rockaway Beach and Sick Cubed even possible? |
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See title. I've FCed Rockaway Beach and Sick, Sick, Sick but can never seem to get gold stars. Any good paths? _________________
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Sully
Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 4570 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Sick Sick Sick is defiinitely possible, Rockaway Beach is thought to be impossible.
Perhaps Krim will divulge his Sick Sick Sick path. |
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krimsunmunkeys
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1333 Location: The Hall of the SH Council... watching... (not really)
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Sully wrote: | Perhaps Krim will divulge his Sick Sick Sick path. |
Perhaps I'll remember how it went... |
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Fedora
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 2286 Location: Des Moines, IA
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm 100% sure rockaway beach is not possible, but I've been wrong before. _________________
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krimsunmunkeys
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 1333 Location: The Hall of the SH Council... watching... (not really)
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Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I ran Sick Sick Sick again and got a score better by a few ticks, so apparently I remember the path. I'll work on getting a video up, but I make no guarantees.
EDIT: Sick, Sick, Sick Gold Star vid is up. Starts at first Overdrive phrase due to size constraints. |
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PeridotWeapon
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 1072 Location: Pittsfield, MA
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Likewise, I don't see how Rockaway Beach is possible. It's like a Bass track took a holiday and went over to see how the Guitar end of the world lives. There's very little variety in the chart to strategically use Overdrive, and not enough Overdrive available to make up for that limitation.
Bang A Gong hasn't been done yet, either, and the only Full Combo is about 5,000 away from the 5GS cutoff. I wouldn't say for sure it's impossible yet, though - it's more likely that nobody's cared to even TRY. 1,048 notes of finger-stretching chord crap, and it goes on FOREVER. |
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jonfitzsimon
Joined: 21 Dec 2007 Posts: 316
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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PeridotWeapon wrote: |
Bang A Gong hasn't been done yet, either, and the only Full Combo is about 5,000 away from the 5GS cutoff. I wouldn't say for sure it's impossible yet, though - it's more likely that nobody's cared to even TRY. 1,048 notes of finger-stretching chord crap, and it goes on FOREVER. |
No crap. I purchased it because it looked fun, but damn its a pain to play. Maybe i will take a run at it over the weekend. |
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Zgf72
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Sully
Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 4570 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Couldn't they add an OD phrase to the songs that can't be gold starred? |
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PeridotWeapon
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 1072 Location: Pittsfield, MA
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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That'd be a quick fix, yes, but at the same time, it's effectively erasing the scoreboard for that song, as the maximum possible score - and possibly the optimal Overdrive path - would be completely changed.
I'm not too keen on the idea of them dropping the requirements for Gold Stars like they did on the PS2 version, either. If they were universally easier to get for all songs, it'd kill a lot of the appeal. |
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Zgf72
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Posts: 34 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps if they were aware of which songs that happened with they could release a patch that awards the gold stars for just 100%ing the song (in just those cases, anyway), so if you've already FCed the song you could get the gold stars and not have to worry about your scores changing or anything with more OD. But they're all DLC so I'm not sure what they'll do about that, but hey a guy can wish. _________________
I'm decent. |
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PeridotWeapon
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 1072 Location: Pittsfield, MA
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Well, they aren't ALL DLC, but they are the biggest culprit. There's at least a quartet of Bass songs that haven't been Gold Starred yet in the standard setlist, five Drum songs, and another four Vocal songs. Granted, some of those are because people just aren't good enough to get the job done yet, but I guarantee a few of them won't be possible by the current formula.
100% = GS would take some of the fun out of it, but for perfectionists, that's probably the easiest patch that wouldn't affect the scoreboards ... |
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hiddenzombie013
Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 1766 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:36 am Post subject: |
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PeridotWeapon wrote: | There's at least a quartet of Bass songs that haven't been Gold Starred yet in the standard setlist, five Drum songs, and another four Vocal songs. Granted, some of those are because people just aren't good enough to get the job done yet, but I guarantee a few of them won't be possible by the current formula. |
Out of curiosity, what are these bass, drum and vocal songs that haven't been gold-starred on the standard setlist. _________________
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PeridotWeapon
Joined: 30 Jun 2007 Posts: 1072 Location: Pittsfield, MA
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: |
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hiddenzombie013 wrote: | Out of curiosity, what are these bass, drum and vocal songs that haven't been gold-starred on the standard setlist. |
I was just quickly eyeballing the Score Hero high scores, which aren't necessarily the be-all and end-all of successful 5GS'd songs - I'm sure some of them have higher scores on the Leaderboard than we do here.
But assuming they don't (and assuming the high score getter didn't just forget to type in a "6" for stars), that list would be:
Can't Let Go, Go With The Flow, I'm So Sick, Tom Sawyer, Vasoline for BASS
Don't Fear The Reaper, Highway Star, Outside, Run To The Hills, Seven for DRUMS
I'm So Sick, The Hand That Feeds, Train Kept A Rollin, When You Were Young, Vasoline for VOCALS
Bass are probably the most likely candidates to not be Gold Starrable, as they're all 100% Notes Hit. Drums are just as likely "too damn hard to do" as opposed to "mathematically impossible," and the issues with Vasoline's Vocal Chart are well-documented. |
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hiddenzombie013
Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 1766 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:53 am Post subject: |
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PeridotWeapon wrote: | hiddenzombie013 wrote: | Out of curiosity, what are these bass, drum and vocal songs that haven't been gold-starred on the standard setlist. |
I was just quickly eyeballing the Score Hero high scores, which aren't necessarily the be-all and end-all of successful 5GS'd songs - I'm sure some of them have higher scores on the Leaderboard than we do here.
But assuming they don't (and assuming the high score getter didn't just forget to type in a "6" for stars), that list would be:
Can't Let Go, Go With The Flow, I'm So Sick, Tom Sawyer, Vasoline for BASS
Don't Fear The Reaper, Highway Star, Outside, Run To The Hills, Seven for DRUMS
I'm So Sick, The Hand That Feeds, Train Kept A Rollin, When You Were Young, Vasoline for VOCALS
Bass are probably the most likely candidates to not be Gold Starrable, as they're all 100% Notes Hit. Drums are just as likely "too damn hard to do" as opposed to "mathematically impossible," and the issues with Vasoline's Vocal Chart are well-documented. |
Ok thanks. I thought I heard Dead on Arrival hasn't been gold starred for vocals, but I hope it has. I've heard crap about Vasoline before so that doesn't surprise me. The rest of the songs don't surprise me; WYWY has three tricky talky parts. TKAR is kinda blah and theres one stupid talky part thats hard (The rest are doable), THTF is kinda wierd too but thats probably been FC'd by someone before, and I haven't tried I'm So Sick too much (5*'d and didn't look back). Yeah, I'm a vocal junkie lol. _________________
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Learn Pro Guitar [ ] (still have a lonnnnng way to go!)
Earn the rest of RB3's achievements [ ] (8 more)
Pick up on some DLC I missed [ ]
5* + 250-streak on Llama Pro Drums [X]
Finish all Drums/Pro Drums goals [ ] |
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