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BowlZ
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1472 Location: Aurora, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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im too tired to FC this damn thing anymore tonight. 0-0-0-2 seems to be roughly the same base score as 2-0-2 but with the extra squeeze +backend sqz opportunity judging by the 20 note differential between Jav and I im guessing this is what he used.
my -3 score was 227k range thats roughly 4500points for 3 errors plus i cant squeeze like him. i think its safe to say 0002 is best _________________
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EaterOfCheese
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 175
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:34 am Post subject: |
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@ HoorayItsMike: Yep, check it out, you're right. The bpm is too fast for that first activation to come up, something I didn't know when I initially went to find all of the squeezes. It's fixed now. Keep up the good work
@ BowlZ: Man, I don't even wanna touch this one. I put it into a spreadsheet, but there's just so many things I don't really understand... Like how you ended up with 1/4 OD taking the 2-0-1 path O.o... looks to me like it should be the best. Maybe Constable can take another look at it. _________________
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Javman158
Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 640 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:44 am Post subject: |
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BowlZ wrote: | im too tired to FC this damn thing anymore tonight. 0-0-0-2 seems to be roughly the same base score as 2-0-2 but with the extra squeeze +backend sqz opportunity judging by the 20 note differential between Jav and I im guessing this is what he used.
my -3 score was 227k range thats roughly 4500points for 3 errors plus i cant squeeze like him. i think its safe to say 0002 is best |
I am quite sure I used a path from the OD forum where I had a full bar of OD before first activation, I haven't played this song since I got that score, so maybe I'll take a look at it tomorrow or saturday and see what I can find out. |
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EaterOfCheese
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 175
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ok BowlZ... I just checked out Gurnkiller's Epic FC on YouTube, and he uses a 2-0-1 pattern... and doesn't end up with 1/4 overdrive. Are you sure you skipped one at the very end?
However, knowing this works, it looks like that's the best path by a bit. You don't really get much by skipping an extra fill at the end. I'll change it to 2-0-1 for now, unless 0-0-0-2 is better... which I highly doubt. But it could be, in practice. _________________
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BowlZ
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1472 Location: Aurora, Ohio
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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maybe i didnt, i dont know. I couldve sworn I skipped 1 but i was dead tired and might have spaced. _________________
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Constable
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:55 am Post subject: |
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BowlZ wrote: |
i just FC'ed epic 2-0-2 with bass squeezing and im 3000 off of first. Ill try 2-0-1
EDIT: i ended with extra od with 2 0 1. why am i so off first then??
Javman's NS is 1803. did he go 0002? and get the points off the squeezes? |
I made this video several days ago. Without a single squeeze with 2 0 1, it was 233,275 with NS 1799. Adding the 6 squeezes (bass+green x 3), NS would "ideally" be 1805. The most I've gotten on this song NS-wise was 1804. |
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Constable
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Northern California
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: |
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I just tested both WYWY paths, and the funny thing is, both will yield the exact same score! The only difference is the NS between the two. Without squeeze, 0 1 1 came down to 1374 NS, while 1 0 2 gave a NS of 1349. Both have 6 squeeze notes, and will yield a max score of 169,675! Should I post both paths onto one video?
Oh! And if anyone needs a little guide/video blerb on drum squeezes, please watch this video. It took me a little while to edit, and it covers almost everything about drum squeezes. I didn't delve too much into back-end squeezing >.< |
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EaterOfCheese
Joined: 19 Jan 2008 Posts: 175
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: |
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After playing them both, I personally find 1-0-2 much easier. The first skip covers one of those RYBBG things and those fills after the break are really weird, iunno why... maybe because I usually never see them xD.
But anyways Constable, thanks for figuring that out. I'll make a note about that in the OP. _________________
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Prophet
Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 772 Location: Snalbans, VT
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: |
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I can confirm that the paths and squeezes are perfect for all the following songs:
I Think I'm Paranoid
Mississippi Queen
Here It Goes Again
I'm So Sick
Sabotage
I either tied for first (damn Javman lol) or got extremely close due to a BRE. _________________
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dab24601
Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I've been working on a program that determines optimal path(s) automatically. Would you folks be interested in the results?
Or is doing this by hand where all the fun's at? |
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KEFIOX
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 640
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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dab24601 wrote: | Hi,
I've been working on a program that determines optimal path(s) automatically. Would you folks be interested in the results?
Or is doing this by hand where all the fun's at? |
Care to elaborate? _________________
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dab24601
Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Sure. Here's a couple of samples of the output...
Code: | Song Level Notes Score Path
electricversion expert 1593 192675 0/OG - 2/OB - 0/OB - 0/OG
electricversion expert 1574 192575 0/OG - 2/OB - 1/OB - 0/OB |
Code: | Song Level Notes Score Path
electricversion expert 1593 192675 0/OG - 2/OB - 0/OB - 0/OG
electricversion hard 1319 161975 0/OG - 2/OB - 1/OB - 0/OB
electricversion medium 860 103275 0/OG - 0/OG - 1/O - 0/OG
electricversion easy 560 67475 0/G - 1/B - 1/NS - 0/G
electricversion easy 554 67475 0/G - 1/B - 1/NS - 1/G |
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KEFIOX
Joined: 02 Oct 2007 Posts: 640
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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Definitely interesting. How exactly does it work? _________________
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dab24601
Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 10
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: |
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It reads the .mid file and creates a decision tree representing all the possible OD paths. It then calculates the FC score for each path and prints out the path(s) with the highest score.
Basically, it does what you folks have been doing here, except it automates the process. |
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BowlZ
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1472 Location: Aurora, Ohio
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: |
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run it on dead on arrival, i refuse to believe all immediate (except for the one skip b4 the bass notes) is the path, im just not good (patient) enough to play around with it _________________
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