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JoshNeff  





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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I beat GGaHT on hard vox, expert guitar. I was pretty proud of that... espically because I used the POS headset as the mic... man that thing does not really work so well.

((edit:: my point being, don't use the headset because it's uhh... trash for vocals beyond easy.))
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 2 cents for those just starting on this.

while this topic says tips for guitar + vocals, I would recommend beginners try xpert bass+vocals to get a good feel for playing and singing at the same time. Bass is typically much easier than the guitar as it usually keeps a steady beat and has less complicated lines....when you get good, move onto x-guitar.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This may be just me, but when I did Bass+Vocals instead of Guitar+Vocals, I had a much harder time getting 5 stars, no clue why...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly because it's harder to score well enough with that band, as opposed to vox+guitar? Just a theory.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the Vox/Guitar and Vox/Bass have the same cutoffs?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe - but in most cases, bass has fewer notes, thus it's harder to get to the same amount of points. At least that's my thinking on it, I don't honeslty pay much attention to points right now, just stars.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BobaFrets wrote:
Maybe - but in most cases, bass has fewer notes, thus it's harder to get to the same amount of points. At least that's my thinking on it, I don't honeslty pay much attention to points right now, just stars.


Ya but thats my point. Say a song's 5 star cutoff is 300K for both Bass and Guitar, with the bass having a lot less notes. That means you'd have to completely nail the bass 98%+ to get the 5 star, even with a solid vocal performance, while with the guitar, with more notes and chords, you would have to get 94% or higher or something. (all the numbers there are hypothetical, just thinking out loud.)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting 5 stars with bass/vocals (over guitar/vocals) is more dependent on keeping your multipliers going. The 5* cutoff is something like 63% of the maximum possible score on the song (varies by song, but approx. that), and since bass can get up to a 6x multiplier, it hurts you more when you screw up and lose that multiplier.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdylan13 wrote:
Say a song's 5 star cutoff is 300K for both Bass and Guitar, with the bass having a lot less notes. That means you'd have to completely nail the bass 98%+ to get the 5 star, even with a solid vocal performance, while with the guitar, with more notes and chords, you would have to get 94% or higher or something.

That's what I was trying to say - this is likely why it's harder to get 5* with bass+vox than with guitar+vox.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k cool
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty81 wrote:
Getting 5 stars with bass/vocals (over guitar/vocals) is more dependent on keeping your multipliers going. The 5* cutoff is something like 63% of the maximum possible score on the song (varies by song, but approx. that), and since bass can get up to a 6x multiplier, it hurts you more when you screw up and lose that multiplier.


Yeah I completely agree with this, in my opinion the scores guitar and bass contribute to the full band isn't that much of a difference thanks to that x6 multiplier bass has, I think it basically makes up for the chords guitar has. Obviously this varies through the songs but keeping that multiplier going on bass is way more important than keeping a streak going on guitar since chords help make up for it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the topic of Static vs. Scrolling, I'll just throw my 2 cents in here. I use Scrolling, but I don't look directly at the vocals or guitar. I sort of focus at the space in between them. This way, I can keep track of both charts at the same time, and I don't have to make a full shift from one instrument to the other when one of them starts getting really tricky.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find Sabatoge to be MUCH easier on vocals than the tier placement suggest. Only hard thing is vocals, but the verses should be easier, so try and listen to the words then almost immeditaly, sing it. Sounds hard, but it got me a 99% vocals, 98% guitar.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

youre on ps2 stfu lol
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