mario3166's Pro Upgrades (updated 12/28/13)

**mario3166** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 34

With columbo777's help i've completed a few pro upgrades and wanted to share them with the community. They should be added to the Ziggy pack soon as well and I've been using version 63 of the Ziggy Editor to do them so tons of thanks to Ziggy as well

"Tyler" by The Toadies
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuWll0ZF9uVFJmXzQ/edit?usp=sharing

"Sex Type Thing" by Stone Temple Pilots
the hard track has some easier verse chords adjusted
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuXzlpTjBkLWpzN00/edit?usp=sharing

"Interstate Love Song" by Stone Temple Pilots
The hard track has some adjusted verse chords that can be played by humans, the expert track has the ones Dean DeLeo plays
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuNWZCakxNYVNwcW8/edit?usp=sharing

"Lightning Crashes" by Live
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcubGxyUWFPTzFuWUk/edit?usp=sharing

"Shooting Star" by Bad Company
My original hard track change didn't work. Changed it back
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuYjhjWEVlVUFsLWc/edit?usp=sharing

"Hands Down" by Dashboard Confessional
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuYmtOVlVTTGc5Umc/edit?usp=sharing

"Wherever I May Roam" by Metallica (version 4, no longer crashing)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcucDYzN0plZU1ET0E/edit?usp=sharing

"Dead and Bloated" by STP (drop d tuning on bass only)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuOUMzM2lVcGp4ems/edit?usp=sharing

"The Distance" by Cake (custom, expert guitar and bass only)
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuWWxYb3V2TFN1bjg/edit?usp=sharing

"Remedy" by The Black Crowes
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuRUp3QnNENmtsaWM/edit?usp=sharing

"Ocean Avenue" by Yellowcard (drop d tuning on guitar and bass)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuc3RDdjM5SDJTUjA/edit?usp=sharing

All tracks have bass as well.
Let me know if you have any issues with them or have any feedback!
thanks

**columbo777** · Joined: 28 Jul 2011 Posts: 245

Nice work on these! Glad to see more custom authoring!
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**Ruiner46** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 8

Nice songs! Taking any requests?

**mario3166** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 34

Thanks,
Not currently taking requests as it takes me quite a while to get through them. As I get faster at it I may in the future.

I can tell you what I'm currently working on:

"Shooting Star" by Bad Company
and
"Dead and Bloated" by STP

**columbo777** · Joined: 28 Jul 2011 Posts: 245

Excellent contribution sir!
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**Ruiner46** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 8

Very cool, it's nice to get some more STP. I appreciate all of the people putting in the time to make these upgrades. I would try to help myself, but I don't have the guitar skills.

**Conker64** · Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 84

Shooting Star, nice!

**mario3166** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 34

Updated the charts for Shooting Star and added:
"Hands Down" by Dashboard Confessional (in op)

Let me know if you have any feedback on them,
enjoy!

**mario3166** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 34

Added:

"Wherever I May Roam" by Metallica
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuWFMtRVhUNzdWaVU/edit?usp=sharing

with bass

**dayman510** · Joined: 27 Mar 2013 Posts: 29

I played Wherever I May Roam a few times on protar, and each time it freezes the game at the same part of the song. anyone else have this issue?

**Conker64** · Joined: 24 Mar 2013 Posts: 84

Yup, that upgrade causes game to freeze.

**raynebc** · Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 992

The likely problem with that upgrade is the 17 fret guitar track has a lot of notes that go above the track's limit and use fret 22. On another note, the pro guitar track has almost 1200 left hand positions, which while probably won't cause a crash, is overkill and could just slow the game engine down. I'm assuming this was made with Ziggy's editor, but the fret hand position creation could use some tweaks. The position doesn't need to be set to the position already in effect, a position of 0 never has to be set for open notes, and a position doesn't need to be set if a note is no more than 3 frets or so higher than the position in effect.

EOF was able to bring the number of position changes needed for the guitar track down to 186, and for the bass track from over 1200 down to just 33. Ziggy's welcome to use EOF's program logic for this task if he likes.

**mario3166** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 34

Yep, same for me, It was working when i only had the guitar part charted, i could play through the whole thing without it freezing. I just added the bass part over the weekend and am now seeing the freezing as well.

Raynebc - did you create an adjusted version that is working without crashing? If so could you post it or send it to me so I can update the link?
I am using the ziggy editor, if anyone has any ideas on what to possibly tweak to get this to work I'm open to suggestions.

I have single string and multi-string tremolos set in the editor that aren't showing up in game so I'm just going to remove them altogether and see if that makes any difference

Also, I'm not sure what to do about the 17th fret issue on the mustang. Is there some secret to keeping the full chart for the Squier and having a reduced chart for mustang that I don't know about?

thanks for the help!

**raynebc** · Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 992

I'm surprised those fret 22 notes in the guitar track didn't cause any crashing, that would be one of the more obvious problems with the chart. Here's an altered version of your MIDI:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/y9f8bq

I didn't actually try to play it, but I cleaned up the fret hand positions and fixed the fret limit issues just by lowering parts of the solos that used those high notes by 12 frets. There's a fret 10 note at 4:55.515 that has offending high notes close to either side, so that was broken and converted to an open note during my cheap fix, it will need to have some more thought put into it (ie. lower it an octave by moving it to another string). I don't recall seeing any other notes that lose the correct pitch from this fix, but you may need to check them. Transposing notes to another string or octave is how Harmonix generally made Mustang versions of pro guitar/bass tracks when necessary.

I don't remember if RB3 uses tremolo chords, do they get used in any official songs?

**mario3166** · Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 34

Thanks, raynebc, i'll try to do some work with the version you sent tonight and see if i can get it working

In the mean time here is version 3 with the tremolos removed:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5XtxZzOPHcuVE9SYVlKWnZ3aEU/edit?usp=sharing

I have played official charts that have them (Jimi Hendrix, all along the watchtower has some in the solos).

Let me know if anyone tries version 3 and it works (also cleaned up some stuff)

thanks