Bandfuse: Rock Legends - Bizarro Bizarro World?

**ComicBookGuru** · Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 1678

WE GH:WT NOW
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Yep, I learned through Rocksmith!

**toymachine** · Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 9629 Location: Toronto

"Rock This Town" by The Stray Cats

**DorkmasterFlek** · Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 1968 Location: Toronto, ON

**ricecake** · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject:

**toymachine** · Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 9629 Location: Toronto

Guitarist George Lynch Announced In @BandFuse: Rock Legends in Preparation For E3 2013! http://bit.ly/YQDE6w

**ComicBookGuru** · Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 1678

I-it's out guys
I'm not the only one who bought it
r-right?

Game's actually pretty good. Note detection is literally flawless. Makes RS2014 look like... well... RS1, at best.
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**raynebc** · Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 992

I'll get to try it in a couple days. I'm looking forward to it, but them choking down on the DLC (not 45 at launch and then weekly releases), in addition to not allocating their product correctly (stocking extra unordered copies in specific chain stores instead of honoring pre-orders?) doesn't put them off to a good start.

**machetemonkey** · Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 3043 Location: Minneapolis, MN

Watching videos, it looked pretty decent, but the sidescrolling tabs weren't as easy to read as I think a lot of people assumed they would be. More immediately intuitive than Rocksmith, for sure, but I felt like my ability to comprehend them went down as the speed and complexity went up, whereas RS does a little better job at that. But of course, this is just watching videos. Maybe playing it is different.

Update:

Again, not having played it, but having watched more videos (of songs ranging from super easy to ridiculously hard), and I still just don't think the interface is as good as Rocksmith's. I know a lot of people don't like the RS interface. They think it's confusing and oddly laid out and would be way better if it were just tabs like they're used to. While I still agree that Rocksmith is probably the least naturally intuitive, and it definitely takes some getting used to, I still think it remains the best interface once you are used to it.

Bandfuse falls into the same problem that made me eventually side with Rocksmith's interface over the RB3PRO interface: It has no visual spacial relations. Whether it's BF or Protar, relying on reading numbers as they go by becomes way harder as speed and complexity increases. In BF I could read along with something like Move Along pretty easily, but let's take a much harder example, Hangar 18. in BF, I couldn't read a damn thing. Once it got to solos, the numbers became a mass blur and literally the only thing I could judge them on was which string they were on. Rocksmith has spacial relationships between notes (IE: A note three frets away from the last note will appear further away than a note that's one fret away), and this is a big help.

Obviously stuff this fast you'll need to take into practice and slow down before you'll ever know exactly what's going on, but in Rocksmith you can at least tell what part of the fretboard it's on, vaguely where the notes are related to each other, and maybe some basic scale shapes based on a sightread of the full chart. And if you've practiced the parts, these spacial identifiers might help spark your memory of parts. With Bandfuse (and again, RBPRO also), once the notes are coming fast enough that you can't take the time to read the fret numbers, you're basically screwed on figuring out even these basics, unless you go and practice them and commit them to memory to begin with.

Anyways, these are my basic perceptions of the in-game interfaces. Bandfuse still looks fairly quality. It's got a great tracklist, from what I hear from various sources the note detection is top-notch, and it's got some cool other features in it too. So don't take this as a wholesale dismissal of Bandfuse.

**yakityyakblah** · Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 3985

That's pretty much been my first instinct since people started saying they should use tabs. Tabs don't translate to reflexive sight reading, your brain can't translate numbers as quickly as it can translate positional information. When it's static you can read ahead, but having it scroll on screen as it's being played doesn't leave you enough time.

is easier to twitch play than

1,3,2,4,3,4,2,1

Rocksmith's UI gives you both, and with the highway viewpoint a lot more lead up to it. There's a learning curve, but it's just a lot more information being communicated in a much more intuitive way once you get the hang of it.

**raynebc** · Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 992

Relying too much on sight-reading makes it harder to memorize how actually play the song though. I've had plenty of time logged in RB3 so it didn't really take me any time to adjust to Bandfuse's notation, and the recommended fingering is pretty nice so you can keep your fretting hand ready to play notes you can't see yet.

**machetemonkey** · Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 3043 Location: Minneapolis, MN

**raynebc** · Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 992

RS2's fade into master mode is a nice touch. I don't remember off the top of my head if you can pause in the new riff repeater and still see notes or not. I was practicing a tough bass fill in Bandfuse's lick lab and found I could press the A button to freeze the screen so I could practice slower than the minimum 60% speed. I suppose allowing you to practice a part slower than 60% is something RS2 does better, hopefully Bandfuse will improve that.

**machetemonkey** · Joined: 02 Feb 2008 Posts: 3043 Location: Minneapolis, MN

**toymachine** · Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 9629 Location: Toronto

http://www.theriffrepeater.com/realta-jimi-hendrix-dlc-bandfuse/

welp
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