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Plastikdrinkz  





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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Top 25 Hardest Drum FCs (VIDEO) Top 50 LIST Reply with quote

Here we go.

1. We Are The Nightmare
2. Your Treachery Will Die With You
3. Young Man Blues
4. Packet Flier
5. This Is Exile
6. The Camera Eye
7. Spinning Wheel
8. Abraxas of Filth
9. Creatures ov Deception
10. Modern Mathematics
11. Curse You All Men
12. Unfurling A Darkened Gospel
13. Working Man (Cover version)
14. Working Man (Vault Edition)
15. If 6 Was 9
16. Magic Bus
17. Guns of Summer
18. Conquer All
19. What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
20. Embedded
21. No Hassle Night
22. Mordecai
23. Hang You From The Heavens
24. Numb and Intoxicated
25. Bled to be Free
^That's the list in which the video is based around.

New list for edits:

Colour Code:
RBN = brown
DLC is olive
Green Day tracks are green
RB2 tracks are blue
RB3 tracks are black

1 We Are The Nightmare
2 Your Treachery Will Die With You
3 Young Man Blues
4 Packet Flier
5 This Is Exile
6 The Camera Eye
7 Spinning Wheel
8 Abraxas of Filth
9 Creatures ov Deception
10 Modern Mathematics
11 Curse You All Men
12 Humanity’s Last Hope
13 Unfurling A Darkened Gospel
14 Believing
15 Working Man (Cover version)
16 Working Man (Vault Edition)
17 If 6 Was 9
18 Magic Bus
19 The Resonance
20 Obfuscation
21 Cimmerian Shamballa
22 Guns of Summer
23 Conquer All
24 What A Horrible Night To Have A Curse
25 Embedded
26 Arcaedion
27 Determined (Vows of Vengeance)
28 Descend Into The Eternal Pits of Possession
29 I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts
30 No Hassle Night
31 Mordecai
32 3rd Stone From The Sun
33 Day of Mourning
34 We Collide
35 Beast and The Harlot
36 Run Through The Jungle
37 Visions
38 Hang You From The Heavens
39 Veil of Illumination PT. 2
40 Numb and Intoxicated
41 Farewell Mona Lisa
42 District of Misery
43 Andromeda
44 Homecoming
45 The Permanent Rain
46 Damnation
47 Berzerker
48 Antman
49 XIV
50 Operation Ground and Pound


The 2x bass pedal list: (All credit goes to Inv4der for coming up with it)

01 Your Treachery Will Die With You
02 The Resonance
03 Ziltodia Attaxx!!
04 Humanity's Last Hope
05 Abraxas of Filth
06 Creatures ov Deception
07 Determined (Vows of Vengeance)
08 Bland Street Bloom
09 Farewell, Mona Lisa
10 Numb and Intoxicated
11 Berzerker
12 XIV
13 Alpha Strike
14 Firefight
15 Alaska


If anyone wants to give me feedback, please do and maybe we can expand this list even more
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obfuscation says hi.

Also, YTWDWY and YMB should switch, at least.

Also, gonna add a second list for 2x bass?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bottom 3 can easily be replaced by songs like 3rd Stone, OGaP, The Thief in the Night, Alpha Strike, some Andromeda songs, We Collide, Determined (Vows of Vengeance), Makeup/Breakup, Believing, Day of Mourning, etc.

I'll try to come up with more. After you put what your top 50 list would be we can give our opinions on the order.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iHomer wrote:
Makeup/Breakup

I think Freeze Frame (not the J. Geils one) is harder than this.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided to make a new list which songs will be added to and song positions can be swapped. I am keeping the original list to avoid confusion. If anyone could assist in colour coding the songs for determining which song is rbn/dlc/rb2 and so on would be very helpful. Also if anyone wants to write descriptions for the songs, go ahead.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iHomer wrote:
The bottom 3 can easily be replaced by songs like 3rd Stone, OGaP, The Thief in the Night, Alpha Strike, some Andromeda songs, We Collide, Determined (Vows of Vengeance), Makeup/Breakup, Believing, Day of Mourning, etc.


I agree 100%. More epic list songs plz.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now there is a top 50 list. I'm not going to make a video straight away, I want probably 15 or so posts with suggestions for altering the list.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO

Before I Forget has no business on this list, Z0MB1ES could take it's place.

YTWDWY is still easier than YMB.

I loled at Obfuscation and Andromeda's placing. Obfuscation is nine minutes of blasts, quad fills, and quad fills, and Andromeda has probably the hardest fills this side of YMB. Move Obfuscation up 10 and Andromeda up like, I dunno, 25.

Veil Part One and Part Two are about the same difficulty, so either they're both on the list or both not on it.

Homecoming seems a bit too low, there's a reason why it's been un-fced for over a year. I say, move it up 10 or 15 places.

Going to add 2x Bass songs?

Hook, Line, and Sinner need to be here, around #30.

That's all I got for right now.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is Veil Part 2 on the list, while Part 1 has the much harder Drum Solo and is overall more difficult? :S

Also I still struggle to understand why Homecoming is on all the lists. The only reason it has not been FC'd yet is that people are lazy and not everyone owns GD:RB.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BLABLAFU wrote:

Also I still struggle to understand why Homecoming is on all the lists. The only reason it has not been FC'd yet is that people are lazy and not everyone owns GD:RB.
Ummm, no? The reason it hasn't been FCed yet is because it's fucking hard. Fine, you do rolls for over a minute at almost 15 NPS.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say keep 2x separate. (Especially since the UnFCed lists are separate, and comparing songs meant for double bass and songs meant for single bass is a little unfair.)

Anything on the existing list with a 2x version should go on a 2x list, as well as Ziltoidia Attaxx (has anyone been able to do the 18nps in ZA? >__>) and Bland Street Bloom, which throws offbeat notes and quintuplets at you with wild abandon.


For the record, the existing songs with 2x versions:

Your Treachery Will Die With You
Abraxas of Filth
Creatures ov Deception
Humanity’s Last Hope
The Resonance
Determined (Vows of Vengeance)
Numb and Intoxicated
Farewell Mona Lisa
Berzerker
XIV

And again, Ziltodia Attaxx (18nps pedal bursts) and Bland Street Bloom (offbeat notes, quintuplet pedal) seem obvious choices for a 2x list. Since there's only 70 or so 2x songs total, it may be prudent to stick to like 15 songs and add more as the total grows.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run Through the Jungle? Really?

I know the roll at the end is balls-hard. But that's literally the only hard part of the song, and it's not nearly as tough as other similar songs (Roll With the Changes, etc).

Seconding the thought that Before I Forget has no place on this list either. Hard? Yes. Top 50? Not by a long shot.

I think a song's placement on the "un-FC'd list" seems to have a little too much bearing on the list here. Sure, Spinning Wheel is hard as HELL, and definitely deserves to be in the top 25, but #6? I'm not sure I agree with that. Similar feelings apply to I Must Not Think Bad Thoughts.

Also, regardless of single or double bass versions, Ziltoidia Attaxx! and Bland Street Bloom should probably be on the list.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

machetemonkey wrote:
I think a song's placement on the "un-FC'd list" seems to have a little too much bearing on the list here.


26 of these songs I think have been fc'd, so I respectfully disagree. You also said Roll With The Change should be on the list, I agree, unfortunately I can't analyse all 3000 songs on rock band at once. Thanks for putting it there. Also if you play BiF you will realise it requires an extreme amount of consistency, it is a very difficult FC.

Hobo111 wrote:
Going to add 2x Bass songs?


I have no plans to, but if someone compiles a numbered list I might add to the original post.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not good enough to really have any sort of real idea, but I've been told that Doublecrossed is an incredibly hard FC.

Anyway it's easy to forget songs so it might be in this thread's organizer(s) to look through all the RBN1 songs that are 5 dots (devils on RB2) and all RBN2 songs that are devils on drums and see if they're worth considering. Any songs that aren't final tier that are worth this list are probably noteworthy enough that they've already been considered.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My attempt at a 2x list:

01 Your Treachery Will Die With You
02 The Resonance
03 Humanity’s Last Hope
04 Ziltodia Attaxx!!
05 Abraxas of Filth
06 Creatures ov Deception
07 Determined (Vows of Vengeance)
08 Bland Street Bloom
09 Farewell, Mona Lisa
10 Numb and Intoxicated
11 Berzerker
12 XIV
13 Alpha Strike
14 Firefight
15 Alaska

It should be noted that these are, of course, all 2x Pedal Versions. It's based on what little knowledge I have of the 2x charts. (It doesn't help me that so few of these have videos for me to base anything on. I based this mainly on mental chart extrapolation from the standard versions.)

Before I'm questioned on ZA, remember that those bursts are 18nps. It's questionable that anyone could consistently do that, let alone within the constraints of the engine. Sheer speed may affect some of these others.
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