I admit it! I fail at pathing. HELP ME!

[Skyp1e]

I don't have a clue how to successfully path my overdrives. I don't understand the shorthand people use to illustrate their optimal paths either.

I've watched youtube vids and emulated paths other people use to increase their scores and that works so far, but I still don't understand what I am supposed to.

I don't even know if chords score more points than single notes.

I had assumed that they do and was pathing accordingly but based on paths of copied from videos I'm not sure about that anymore.

OD pathing obviously is HUGE. I've increased scores on songs that I've FC'd by as much as 30% just by copying someone else's OD path.

However I cannot find any online reference material that really explains how the points work for PRO keys or how to decipher the codes people use to write out OD paths in threads.

Help this NOOB!

[Skyp1e]

I don't have a clue how to successfully path my overdrives. I don't understand the shorthand people use to illustrate their optimal paths either.

I've watched youtube vids and emulated paths other people use to increase their scores and that works so far, but I still don't understand what I am supposed to.

I don't even know if chords score more points than single notes.

I had assumed that they do and was pathing accordingly but based on paths of copied from videos I'm not sure about that anymore.

OD pathing obviously is HUGE. I've increased scores on songs that I've FC'd by as much as 30% just by copying someone else's OD path.

However I cannot find any online reference material that really explains how the points work for PRO keys or how to decipher the codes people use to write out OD paths in threads.

Help this NOOB!

[megallica]

yes, chords are worth more than single notes

you get the same number of points for each key in a chord that you would for a single note, so a 4 note chord is worth 4 times as many points as a single note

you also get points for hitting some of the notes in a chord, even if you miss others, but it will break your streak and bring your multiplier back to 0 if you miss some of them

i haven't taken pathing very seriously on keys, but i used to make my own paths for guitar, bass and vocals for RB2

if you're following the path of a video, you probably won't exceed the score that the person got in that video, so it'll only be helpful if that person got a good score in that video, relative to what the top score is

you should try to activate in areas with alot of notes, either because the section is really fast, or has alot of chords, or both

it's important to note that your multiplier is really important, and you want to activate during parts that you have a 4x multiplier on, so if you can't hit parts that have alot of notes, it might be better to activate in places that you can hit

one of the biggest factors in top scores on Pro Keys is going to be how much additional overdrive you get out of whammying sustained notes (which i haven't put much effort into so far)

the extra overdrive you can get from doing that can add up to thousands of points on alot of songs, depending on how many overdrive phrases have sustained notes

so far, this is the only site i've seen that gives paths for pro keys charts

http://site.tmullin.net:81/ipather/

unfortunately, i haven't tried to use it yet, so i can't really help you interpret the notation it uses, but maybe someone else can
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[megallica]

yes, chords are worth more than single notes

you get the same number of points for each key in a chord that you would for a single note, so a 4 note chord is worth 4 times as many points as a single note

you also get points for hitting some of the notes in a chord, even if you miss others, but it will break your streak and bring your multiplier back to 0 if you miss some of them

i haven't taken pathing very seriously on keys, but i used to make my own paths for guitar, bass and vocals for RB2

if you're following the path of a video, you probably won't exceed the score that the person got in that video, so it'll only be helpful if that person got a good score in that video, relative to what the top score is

you should try to activate in areas with alot of notes, either because the section is really fast, or has alot of chords, or both

it's important to note that your multiplier is really important, and you want to activate during parts that you have a 4x multiplier on, so if you can't hit parts that have alot of notes, it might be better to activate in places that you can hit

one of the biggest factors in top scores on Pro Keys is going to be how much additional overdrive you get out of whammying sustained notes (which i haven't put much effort into so far)

the extra overdrive you can get from doing that can add up to thousands of points on alot of songs, depending on how many overdrive phrases have sustained notes

so far, this is the only site i've seen that gives paths for pro keys charts

http://site.tmullin.net:81/ipather/

unfortunately, i haven't tried to use it yet, so i can't really help you interpret the notation it uses, but maybe someone else can
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[bclare]

I wouldn't mind making some Pro Keys paths, I enjoy the problem-solving aspect of pathing. The Pro charts on darylzero's site are a little strange to read / interpret though, since it just shows the color and doesn't have any indication for what note that is.

Quick and dirty, here's a path for Light My Fire. Each line of the path is one OD activation; the number is how many OD phrases you pick up before activating, the number in parentheses is how many more ODs you chain into, and then there's a description of which note to activate on. Ideally you should activate just before the described note. If you see something like m26 or m38, that's giving a measure number. Those are the red numbers at the top of the chart.

http://site.tmullin.net:81/ipather/charts/xprokeys/lightmyfire_xprokeys_blank.png

2 (0) - first 4-note chord in m26

1 (0) - beginning of organ solo section (m38)

3(+1) - first chord after sustains in m66

1 (0) - 4-note chord in m83 (2nd m of section organ solo C)

2(+1) - first note after solo section ends (3-note chord)

2 (0) - NN (next note, so activate just about immediately, this is m127)

2 (0) - start of m147, 3-note chord

2(+1) - m170 chords

1 (0) - 4-note chord at end of m183

2(+1) - start of m200

^ if you miss chaining that +1, it's a unison so you can do a last activation immediately after picking it up.


And there's a path! Very long song, maybe not the best place to start haha. I can do more of these though if you have any particular requests, and if I take some more time I can figure out an estimate for an FC score with proper activations. Also, no promises that this path is optimal, since I wasn't really checking everything. Some of the activations will get tweaked if I go back to this.
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[bclare]

I wouldn't mind making some Pro Keys paths, I enjoy the problem-solving aspect of pathing. The Pro charts on darylzero's site are a little strange to read / interpret though, since it just shows the color and doesn't have any indication for what note that is.

Quick and dirty, here's a path for Light My Fire. Each line of the path is one OD activation; the number is how many OD phrases you pick up before activating, the number in parentheses is how many more ODs you chain into, and then there's a description of which note to activate on. Ideally you should activate just before the described note. If you see something like m26 or m38, that's giving a measure number. Those are the red numbers at the top of the chart.

http://site.tmullin.net:81/ipather/charts/xprokeys/lightmyfire_xprokeys_blank.png

2 (0) - first 4-note chord in m26

1 (0) - beginning of organ solo section (m38)

3(+1) - first chord after sustains in m66

1 (0) - 4-note chord in m83 (2nd m of section organ solo C)

2(+1) - first note after solo section ends (3-note chord)

2 (0) - NN (next note, so activate just about immediately, this is m127)

2 (0) - start of m147, 3-note chord

2(+1) - m170 chords

1 (0) - 4-note chord at end of m183

2(+1) - start of m200

^ if you miss chaining that +1, it's a unison so you can do a last activation immediately after picking it up.


And there's a path! Very long song, maybe not the best place to start haha. I can do more of these though if you have any particular requests, and if I take some more time I can figure out an estimate for an FC score with proper activations. Also, no promises that this path is optimal, since I wasn't really checking everything. Some of the activations will get tweaked if I go back to this.
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[Voltgloss]

Also, to give a little more explanation of Overlord path "terminology," using bclare's example:

[Voltgloss]

Also, to give a little more explanation of Overlord path "terminology," using bclare's example:

[Skyp1e]

[Skyp1e]

[MehPlusRawr]

[MehPlusRawr]

[Voltgloss]

A few other tips:

- The base score for hitting a Pro Keys note is 60 points. Obviously, at max 8x multiplier (4x plus OD) that becomes 480 points per note.

- Increase to score from holding sustains is a function of how long the sustain is. In most cases (actually, in all that I've checked so far), this works out to: 1 note held for 1 beat = 15 extra points, before taking multipliers into account. Yes, score multiplier (including OD) does increase the points gained from holding sustains, as well as hitting notes.

- As mentioned, you get points for EACH note in a chord. You also get points separately for each SUSTAINED note in a chord.

- So, as an example, if you're playing a 3-note chord that is held for 2 beats, and do so under 4x multipler:

--- You get 3 * 60 * 4 = 720 points for hitting the chord; and
--- You get 3 * 15 * 2 * 4 = 360 points from holding it for those two beats.

For a total of 1080 points. Do this under OD, and you'll get 2160 points instead.
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[Voltgloss]

A few other tips:

- The base score for hitting a Pro Keys note is 60 points. Obviously, at max 8x multiplier (4x plus OD) that becomes 480 points per note.

- Increase to score from holding sustains is a function of how long the sustain is. In most cases (actually, in all that I've checked so far), this works out to: 1 note held for 1 beat = 15 extra points, before taking multipliers into account. Yes, score multiplier (including OD) does increase the points gained from holding sustains, as well as hitting notes.

- As mentioned, you get points for EACH note in a chord. You also get points separately for each SUSTAINED note in a chord.

- So, as an example, if you're playing a 3-note chord that is held for 2 beats, and do so under 4x multipler:

--- You get 3 * 60 * 4 = 720 points for hitting the chord; and
--- You get 3 * 15 * 2 * 4 = 360 points from holding it for those two beats.

For a total of 1080 points. Do this under OD, and you'll get 2160 points instead.
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[twistedoak]

[twistedoak]

[Voltgloss]

[Voltgloss]

[Deschain]

http://therocktimizer.com/howto.html
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Fraggle Rock

Lars Ulrich said, not wrote:

It's only 7 1/2 minutes! F***, we gotta put some more riffs in there.

[Deschain]

http://therocktimizer.com/howto.html
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Fraggle Rock

Lars Ulrich said, not wrote:

It's only 7 1/2 minutes! F***, we gotta put some more riffs in there.

[bclare]

[bclare]