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GameUniverse  





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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TopazGrl wrote:
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Well we can use a crt tv...

Won't make a difference. There will always be lag, especially with rhythm games. And it might just make it worse considering the note tracks will be more scrunched up than on a widescreen.


I personally straight up know you are wrong. There is ZERO Lag on a crt.

However, it does change the proportion...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GameUniverse wrote:
TopazGrl wrote:
GameUniverse wrote:
Well we can use a crt tv...

Won't make a difference. There will always be lag, especially with rhythm games. And it might just make it worse considering the note tracks will be more scrunched up than on a widescreen.


I personally straight up know you are wrong. There is ZERO Lag on a crt.

However, it does change the proportion...


Lag is relative. People are used to different settings, I know I tend to have the hitbox centered slightly before a note, so if someone else is used to hitting slightly late then we'd have a tough time playing together. Not that we couldn't play together, just that we'd be unlikely to simultaneously FC a tough song.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GameUniverse wrote:
I personally straight up know you are wrong. There is ZERO Lag on a crt.

However, it does change the proportion...

The tv may have zero lag but that doesn't mean the controllers don't. And what bclare said is true too.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I bought a crt tv rather than an HD for hardly any more money simply for GH and RB. Every single GH and RB had zero lag EXCEPT RB3. Add in the fact that guitar, drums, and vocals all have different lag settings and it gets really annoying. But regardless, it doesn't matter to me what you guys decide on, I'll be there .
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah, I bought a crt tv rather than an HD for hardly any more money simply for GH and RB. Every single GH and RB had zero lag EXCEPT RB3. Add in the fact that guitar, drums, and vocals all have different lag settings and it gets really annoying. But regardless, it doesn't matter to me what you guys decide on, I'll be there .


Lee, there is no difference In lag in RB3 from RB2.
The timing window is different.
You can't hit one note if the note behind it is at the "hit-box"


But I think your getting screwed by the POV visual difference. They moved the Fretboard lower to make it look like GH, so it appears that the notes are being hit earlier on the board, when they actually are not.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lsapg09 wrote:
Brockbfball1563 wrote:
Yeah, I bought a crt tv rather than an HD for hardly any more money simply for GH and RB. Every single GH and RB had zero lag EXCEPT RB3. Add in the fact that guitar, drums, and vocals all have different lag settings and it gets really annoying. But regardless, it doesn't matter to me what you guys decide on, I'll be there .


Lee, there is no difference In lag in RB3 from RB2.
The timing window is different.
You can't hit one note if the note behind it is at the "hit-box"


But I think your getting screwed by the POV visual difference. They moved the Fretboard lower to make it look like GH, so it appears that the notes are being hit earlier on the board, when they actually are not.

When I played rb 3, there was a huge difference in lag...and yes it was on a CRT TV. It definitely wasn't the hit box haha.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is absolutely a difference in lag in every single RB game. None of them are the same (except maybe the track packs. I wouldn't know about those).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your talking about video lag, well than yes... that's obvious, every single game has different video lag, But it shouldnt be something that is overwhelming and makes it so difficult that you can't hit notes...
I have the same calibration on RB2, RB3, GHWoR, and GH3.
No difference for me... O_o
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lsapg09 wrote:
If your talking about video lag, well than yes... that's obvious, every single game has different video lag, But it shouldnt be something that is overwhelming and makes it so difficult that you can't hit notes...
I have the same calibration on RB2, RB3, GHWoR, and GH3.
No difference for me... O_o

You must be lucky then haha. I think most people with CRT TVs have to change calibration to about 20 ms audio/ 20 ms video or something like that. It's a big enough lag difference with 0/0 that patterns are generally ok, but rolls are annoying.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use 0/0 for every game except RB3 where I use 20/20. Stupid RB3 fucking shit up.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/facepalm

When you guys set it to 20/20, your offsetting it, so all your doing is making it so you hit the notes earlier, without it being any visually different.
As I explained earlier, the timing window is different in this game, you can't hit notes when another one is at the "hit-box"

same goes for GHWoR, it's just less noticeable because of the looser timing window xD


but if you guys prefer to play on 20/20, thats fine. For me that would be no bother, basically no difference, just can't hit the notes super early ;O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5H29tQImaM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If53UlyU1Q0
I did these with a 0/0, so IDK what you guys are whining about :O


and I know alot of people do the 20/20 trick for Ties that Bind, to give a little time to fall behind. I prefer not to, idk why O_o
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDC about lag settings tbh. I just want this to happen.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lsapg09 wrote:
/facepalm

When you guys set it to 20/20, your offsetting it, so all your doing is making it so you hit the notes earlier, without it being any visually different.
As I explained earlier, the timing window is different in this game, you can't hit notes when another one is at the "hit-box"

same goes for GHWoR, it's just less noticeable because of the looser timing window xD


but if you guys prefer to play on 20/20, thats fine. For me that would be no bother, basically no difference, just can't hit the notes super early ;O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5H29tQImaM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If53UlyU1Q0
I did these with a 0/0, so IDK what you guys are whining about :O


and I know alot of people do the 20/20 trick for Ties that Bind, to give a little time to fall behind. I prefer not to, idk why O_o

The +20/20 trick does not work for everyone. I don't know why, but that's how it is. It didn't work for me and it's clear it doesn't work for you too.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TopazGrl wrote:
lsapg09 wrote:
/facepalm

When you guys set it to 20/20, your offsetting it, so all your doing is making it so you hit the notes earlier, without it being any visually different.
As I explained earlier, the timing window is different in this game, you can't hit notes when another one is at the "hit-box"

same goes for GHWoR, it's just less noticeable because of the looser timing window xD


but if you guys prefer to play on 20/20, thats fine. For me that would be no bother, basically no difference, just can't hit the notes super early ;O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5H29tQImaM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If53UlyU1Q0
I did these with a 0/0, so IDK what you guys are whining about :O


and I know alot of people do the 20/20 trick for Ties that Bind, to give a little time to fall behind. I prefer not to, idk why O_o

The +20/20 trick does not work for everyone. I don't know why, but that's how it is. It didn't work for me and it's clear it doesn't work for you too.



It's nothing that 'works'. It's not a glitch in the system, it's just a preference.

Some people would rather have the ability to hit the notes a little later.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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IDC about lag settings tbh. I just want this to happen.

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