Reopening the 99% FC debate

**r0bd0g** · Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 327 Location: Canada

I guess it's possible that you got 999.5 points on a phrase, and had it rounded up to the whole thing?

**Tzepish** · Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject:

**googleimage** · Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1229

My opinion is, if the game returns a 99%, then you should enter 99%. The ScoreHero database tallies the number of songs you got a 100%, and the number of FC's. If it's a 99% FC, then the ScoreHero database should count it as such. But it shouldn't count as a 100%, so it's entirely possible to have more FC's than 100%'s this way.

I don't think we need to fudge the numbers to capture what's really happening here.
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**jawnintendo** · Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 1202 Location: Edinburg, VA

FC means full combo. When our forefathers founded ScoreHero, we defined FC as hitting all the notes without breaking your combo. Nowadays, we have bent those rules to allow "specific types of FCs", i.e., bootleg FC and 99% FC. These are not considered "true" FCs.

In all truth, we don't call things FC's unless they meet OUR, as individuals, standards, not the standards that were formed by our forefathers. We're constantly bending and shaping the definition of an FC to the point where nobody knows what it really means anymore. Just listen to "I Get By's" lyrics: "but in reality, perfection isn't what we really want", the "perfection" meaning an FC.

As for my statement on the debate as listed in the title of this thread, the Rock Band side of ScoreHero has no way to show if a score entered is an FC or not, so if you did "full combo" a song, I vote that you put in 100%, not 99%.

tl;dr: 99% FC = 100% FC
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**singemfrc** · Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4407 Location: California

My opinion is pretty simple. If, like PlexShaw, you missed no ticks and it still gave you 99%, then you got 99% for no perceivable reason and as far as we know you did FC the song, and I have no problem with entering a 100% in this case. This has to be pretty rare though, I've gotten a ton of 99% "FC"s, and Ive looked every single time, and every single time I've dropped ticks.

In fact it's obvious while playing, if I see that (while not using OD) that I got an awesome but got less than 4000 points for the phrase, I know I actually missed that phrase and I'm going to get a 99%.

If you look at accuracy and you missed some ticks, you didn't really FC the song - you missed a phrase but the game gave you an awesome anyway. But you DID miss some ticks, so you should enter the 99% (or just replay like I do).

RJ is right about no one really caring about streak, at least not competitively. The only time it really matters is on non-vocals to see if someone got an FC or got overhits/overstrums. 100% vs 99% is significant though for people who count FCs and/or are going for FGFCs, so it's at least important for that reason.
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**PlexShaw** · Joined: 19 Sep 2007 Posts: 332 Location: London, UK

It wasn't me that got that, it was LucasPWNS8907. ;)

But, funnily enough, a friend of mine got 99%/106K on Llama four times before finally getting the 100%. Unfortunately, the leaderboard won't update the percentage because the score isn't higher, so it still shows as 99%. Something is clearly amiss...

**MWcw709** · Joined: 19 Dec 2009 Posts: 230 Location: Austell, GA

Also, I have a video on there as well of The Game by Disturbed with saying 99% but the score break down has me 100% every where go figure lol. Is this a 100% or a 99%?
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**jawnintendo** · Joined: 28 Dec 2009 Posts: 1202 Location: Edinburg, VA

**Shad3d** · Joined: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 12

Just when you're trying for FC's/100% use the "100% the Game" Goal(Not sure what its called, located under Epic ROck Band).
It will tell you if you drop ticks and make it 99%, so instead of raging at ends of songs you can just restart where you missed.
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**holydevel** · Joined: 04 Jul 2008 Posts: 25

just my 2 cents.

i think that, just like in a few of the guitar hero games, if someone gets less than 100% yet never drops combo it should be seen as an FC for the sake of counting fc's/getting a FGFC.

however, should someone get a 99%, despite hitting every phrase and the game showing up 100% in the more stats menu, then they should submit a 99% FC. this is because if we do allow it then any person who drops a phrase or two and gets a 99% could submit it as a 100%, whether they thought it was an FC or not.
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Game devs should really stop letting vocalists get anything under 100% while still getting an FC.

Seriously, it causes so much drama.

**Bandaddy** · Joined: 07 Apr 2008 Posts: 335

My opinion is meaningless, so I won't give it.

BUT.....

If it was league play, and the rules of the league said "all scores must be 100% to count" and required video or photo proof, and only the score showing on that screen (with the 100%) would count in the league, well.....then how would you feel about the subject?

In other words, would you count a score showing all the 100% breakdown sections, full accuracy, but a 99% on the final screen? Or would you have to try to beat your already FC'd and 100% effort with a higher score and hope it didn't glitch, even though you miraculously squeezed out a phenomenal score on the 99%?

Just pointing out this scenario, since you couldn't just count your high score AND say you 100% as previously suggested, by using two different results. You would have to (or at least want to) get your highest score and the 100% in the same run.

**RyRobo** · Joined: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 10

99%, 50,000 accuracy

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But seriously, it's 99% and should be put on the Scorehero leaderboards like that. It's the score than counts, not the percent...

**Xepher850** · Joined: 09 Jul 2009 Posts: 1294

Quick question; In a BQP session with my teamates, we happened to FBFC a song. However, our vocalist got the 99% glitch, noting that the extra results showed 100% on all sections. We did this on video btw, so you can even watch the chart and see he never broke combo. So does this qualify as a FBFC?
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**ProffessorJoe** · Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject:

This is so ridiculous. So now you're going to enter a FBFC with 3 100's and a 99? WTF? Tell me how that makes sense. Its been proven time and time again that THIS IS A GLITCH. Why can't we treat it as one? When blitzkrieg Bop was glitched what happened? JCirri defaulted the scores to the optimal they should be at. When you GLITCH and get a 99% even though your phrase streak MATCHES what every 100% phrase streak is, YOU SHOULD PUT IN 100%. I do understand that score is most important, but come on. "do you have a FGFC of vocals?" "Yes, but i only have 75/83 100%" "WAT?" -_- /rant
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