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iammax
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 438 Location: Westchester, NY
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:49 am Post subject: |
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Hmm... are you going to add RB3 under our current RBN section, or add the RBN songs to RB3's section? _________________
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RJUCPU
Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1827 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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With regard to the 3-Part, while I agree there isn't nearly as much activity here as in other categories, there is still a decent amount, especially with regard to DLC.
I have a suggestion:
Why not allow "less than 4" to be submitted in full band? In my opinion, this would be similar in mindset to allowing lower difficulties in the expert submissions. If you play with less than 4, you can expect your scores to be lower/your ranking lower. But if you just want to enter them and keep track you have the ability to do so. I know we play frequently in 3-part as do a few others (Ripley comes to mind) so while it may not be competitive in it's own right, there are a bunch of them and this could allow people to still enter them and track. Any combination of 3 could be entered and that's a huge amount of separate leaderboards that could be removed while still retaining the independent scores.
Maybe when submitting under the full band screen you can make the choice "NULL" or something to signify you didn't use that instrument (and when this is chosen, possibly gray out the NS and Percent etc).
I think this could work and... as an added bonus... this would also take care of the scenarios where the song has a missing part. We've seen more and more of those so it could be a way to keep all the various 3-part combinations tracking without having an entirely different set-up for them.
Doing something of this route would save a lot of clutter isolating score tracking to Solo, Co-op (2-part) and Band (maybe a better verbage than full band). Band would consist of any combination above 2 as you would/could feasibly enter 3-part, 4-part and 5-part (since with 5 parts only 4 score anyway and it's limited to local play).
Band obviously will need the most categories as you simply cannot place it in 2 categories but I don't think you would need to break out all possible combinations. Five player band play will be restricted to local play and only four instruments score. Harmonies would be an issue, because even though it's also restricted to local play, the scoring difference is quite large so would not be fair to online bands which make up the large majority of scores. However, I don't see a need to break out all possible combinations as that would dilute the leaderboards significantly. Maybe it could be simple enough as [Band] > Standard / Pro-Mode (whereas Pro-Mode would apply if 1 or more instruments played in this setting similar to the difficulty level now) > [Vocals] Solo/Harmonies. Hope that makes some sort of sense.
Lastly, it seems that Joe mentioned you cannot have certain combinations such as Guitar/Bass/Keys (&/or vocals, don't remember exactly) all at the same time. I'm not sure if this is online only or if it includes local play. Nor am I sure what the consequences are (maybe they just don't all get scored). In either case, it's something to take into account as it could affect the ability to even enter scores with various instruments in Band play. _________________
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Prong1978
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 2257 Location: Flint, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I apologize if this has been covered, but is there any plans to add and "ALL" systems selection for scores like there is on the GH side? I think it would help unite players if there was a single leaderboard to check out (in addition to the separate systems). _________________
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xXxLagacyxXx
Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 416
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Prong1978 wrote: | I apologize if this has been covered, but is there any plans to add and "ALL" systems selection for scores like there is on the GH side? I think it would help unite players if there was a single leaderboard to check out (in addition to the separate systems). |
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chocotricks
Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Posts: 94
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Plz add ds version when your ready of course I know you said you might get to it but I hope you do get to it xD lol kthxbye _________________
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MasterNobody
Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 2791 Location: Duxbury, MA
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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While I think the discussion regarding band scores is great and should continue (I like a lot of what RJ said, it goes well with some of my ideas)...
Could we pretty pretty please get DLC and imports tracking up? I wouldn't imagine it would be too hard to do, I really badly wanna be able to upload my new AoH, MLW, and EJN scores and the like =/ _________________
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JosJuice
Joined: 28 Sep 2009 Posts: 55 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:43 am Post subject: |
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yayz, it seems like imports/DLC are up.
There's a weird glitch though, every GDRB song shows up twice. |
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blingdomepiece
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 4358 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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JCirri
Joined: 04 Feb 2006 Posts: 4576
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for not updating as I went along, but I wanted to complete my list first.
The issue with the GDRB imports being duplicated has been fixed, and pro drums have now been added for all the newly added material.
Here's a list of updates that were made:- All DLC/Imports should now be available within RB3
- A new menu selection has been added for RBN to choose between RB2 or RB3
- 'Recent Scores' now has a Keys column and underlines the percentages for Pro scores
- A bunch of staff controls updated for us to easily keep up with adding future DLC/RBN songs
Please keep in mind that the scoring engines are not compatible between RB2 and RB3, so you must submit your scores within the appropriate section under the game where you played the song.
If you find anything that's wrong or still missing, let me know.
I'll probably revisit band tracking after I add support for DJ Hero 2, which is long overdue now and shouldn't take too long. I'll also try to see what would be involved with adding the DS version here, but that's not as high a priority at the moment. _________________
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RJUCPU
Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1827 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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JCirri wrote: |
I'll probably revisit band tracking after I add support for DJ Hero 2, which is long overdue now and shouldn't take too long. I'll also try to see what would be involved with adding the DS version here, but that's not as high a priority at the moment. |
Will this include the Co-op (2-part) score tracking? I know earlier in this thread you stated it could probably be added sooner since everyone pretty much agreed about it. Don't mean to sound impatient or anything but we are eager to get started.
Also, I don't know if this is even worth mentioning but something that I find of slight annoyance... would it be possible (or feasible) to move the RB3 selection next to RB1 and RB2? Just seems a better place for it than having to go to the end of the line (or scroll over depending on your browser window size). _________________
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singemfrc
Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4406 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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JCirri wrote: | - A new menu selection has been added for RBN to choose between RB2 or RB3 | RB3 RBN needs to have Pro Drums added. _________________
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MasterNobody
Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 2791 Location: Duxbury, MA
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks so much for adding the DLC JCirri!
RJUCPU wrote: | JCirri wrote: |
I'll probably revisit band tracking after I add support for DJ Hero 2, which is long overdue now and shouldn't take too long. I'll also try to see what would be involved with adding the DS version here, but that's not as high a priority at the moment. |
Will this include the Co-op (2-part) score tracking? I know earlier in this thread you stated it could probably be added sooner since everyone pretty much agreed about it. Don't mean to sound impatient or anything but we are eager to get started.
Also, I don't know if this is even worth mentioning but something that I find of slight annoyance... would it be possible (or feasible) to move the RB3 selection next to RB1 and RB2? Just seems a better place for it than having to go to the end of the line (or scroll over depending on your browser window size). |
I agree with RJ that it would be great if you could add full co-op tracking, as it seems everyone agrees that this should be included.
Also, I think RB3 should stay where it is so the games are in the order that they were released like on the GH side. RBN doesn't exactly follow this model, but since it's not really it's own game I guess that's okay...idunno _________________
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twistedoak
Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 1152
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Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Those who voxtar/ do two parts at the same time would greatly appreciate co-op tracking as well. It's hard enough to compete with 2 person groups let alone a full band...
Thank you! _________________
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blingdomepiece
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 4358 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:18 am Post subject: |
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A couple of notes my more anal retentive mind noticed (PS3 Expert Pro Keys page):
1) When I look at my score history in RB2 I can see the note streak and percentage for each score. When I click on my score history in RB3 I only see scores.
2) Possibly related, but sorting by streak or percentage does not work. Doing either gives you the result of sorting by tier. Sorting by timestamp, score, rank, and rating (e.g. stars) do work, as does sorting explicitly by tier. _________________
Expert Pro Keys: 50/63 GS, most recent The Killing Moon
Expert Pro Drums: 53/83 GS, most recent Free Bird / Oh My God / Oye Mi Amor
Expert Pro Bass: 6/83 GS, most recent Everybody Wants to Rule the World
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Bmad965
Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 129
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Speaking of keys, there's still no DLC showing up for regular or pro keys. _________________
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