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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:35 pm    Post subject: The Missing OD Bug and Paths Reply with quote

As of 7/27/18 there is a game-breaking vocal bug.
Any OD phrase with a break before a tap section will not grant you that OD.
Therefore this can greatly affect the path of the song.

Current # of Broken Charts: 46



Special Cases
~These songs have no OD activation possible. Gold stars are still possible with taps.
    Funk #49 (James Gang)
    Low Rider (WAR)

~These songs have a missing OD but it's not used in the original path (EwO path).
    War Pigs (Black Sabbath)


All Immediate activation.
...Wait wut?!
Same activation points as original path.
Different activation points.



...And Justice For All (Metallica): 2, 2, 2/6p, 2/4p
~Last act is changed up due to the lack of OD.

A-Punk (Vampire Weekend): AI
~Path is weirdly reduced to one activation that EwO due to losing 2 OD phrases and a weird chart.

All the Small Things (Blink-182): 2/2p-ESF, 2/DOD-ESF, 2/AT
~Same path but you lose 1 OD on the last act.

Baba O'Riley (The Who): 2, 3/
~Same path but you lose OD on the 1st act, making it a partial squeeze.

Ballroom Blitz (Sweet): 2, 2/1p, 2/, 3/ESF
~Entire path is messed up.

Burn It Down (Five Finger Death Punch): 2/sk4, 2/AT-sk1
~2nd act changed to use up all OD and still squeeze in more points.

Call Me (Blondie): 3/BOD, 3/AT, 2/
~The 2nd act here is combo'd with the original 2nd act.

Casey Jones (The Grateful Dead): 3/1p-ESF, 2/sk1, 2/1p-ESF, 2/ESF, 2/DOD-ESF
~The 2nd act here is combo'd with the original 3rd act.

Come Out and Play (Keep 'Em Separated) (The Offspring): 3/, 2/, 2/sk1/, 2/
~Entire path is messed up. Oddly enough, the first phrase doesn't increase your streak multiplier.

Critical Acclaim (Avenged Sevenfold): 2/ESF, 3/BOD, 4/A2T-sk1
~A better path is presented with the possibility of the 3rd act due to losing 2 OD phrases near the end.

The Final Countdown (Europe): 2/sk2-FRS, 3/sk2
~1st act is right as the oncoming notes hit the right side of the OD meter. 2nd act caps at xxu,260.

Detroit Rock City (KISS): 2/, 3/sk1, 2/
~Same path but you lose OD on last two acts.

Give It to Me (Cocktail Slippers): 2/sk2, 3/sk2
~Almost same path but activating a bit later on 2nd act to still chain with only 3/ instead of 4/.

Hallowed Be Thy Name (Live) (Iron Maiden): 2/, 2/, 2/AT-sk2
~1st act is done earlier to avoid chaining to conserve OD for 2nd act.

Hysteria (Muse): 4/
~You simply extend the first act and use up all OD since the last OD phrase is bugged.

I Ran (So Far Away) (A Flock of Seagulls): 2/!, 3/AT, 2/
~Combining original 2nd/3rd acts into one act.

I Recognize (Newfane): 3/, 2/ESF
~You lose 2 OD phrases, but weirdly enough using the same activations still results in the best path.

Icky Thump (The White Stripes): AI
~Path is reduced to 1 activation.

Levitate (I Mother Earth): 2/sk3, 2/AT, 2/
~Same path but you lose OD on the 2nd act.

Lovesong (The Cure): 2/sk1, 4/
~First od-before-taps glitched, other two are not. Just skip one more window on your first activation to compensate.

N.I.B. (Black Sabbath): 2/BOD, 2/sk2, 3/
~One OD phrase is lost on the last act.

Nobody's Fool (Cinderella): 2/BOD, 2/DOD-ESF
~1st act is done early to save another OD to make up for the lost OD in 2nd act.

Number of the Beast (OV) (Iron Maiden): 2!/, 4/AT, 2/2p-ESF
~Original 2nd and 3rd acts are combined into one.

Magic Bus (The Who): 5/sk1, 2/, 2/
~Same path with 1 OD lost on the last act.

Mony Mony (Billy Idol): 2/1p-sk2-ESF, 2/ESF, 2/2p-ESF, 3/
~Same path with 1 OD lost on the third act.

My Generation (The Who): 3/DOD-ESF, 4/AT-sk1
~Same score since the normal path overuses a OD phrase anyways on the last act.

One Way or Another (Blondie): 4/, 2/, 2/
~Same path but you lose an OD on the 2nd act.

Orange Crush (R.E.M.): 3/sk2, 4/ESF
~Almost the same path but you lose OD on the last act requiring you to do an easy ESF. Weirdly enough you get the same points as the original path/chart.

Peace of Mind (Boston): 4/, 2/AT-sk1, 2/AT-sk2
~Almost the same path but you lose OD on the last two acts making it better to sk2 instead of 1 on the last act.

Photograph (Def Leppard): 3/2p-ESF, 2/AT-ESF, 2/3p-ESF
~1st act is done early to save an extra OD for the 2nd messed up act.

Pump It Up (Elvis Costello): AI
~With 1 lost OD phase, a simple AI path is all you need.

Rio (Duran Duran): 2/, 2/sk1, 3/AT, 4/
~Same path essentially but you lose a OD phrase on 3rd act.

Roam (The B-52's): 2/, 4/, 2/!, 2/DOD-ESP/20, 2/sk2
~4th act loses an OD.

Saturday Night Special (Lynyrd Skynyrd): 2/, 2/BOD, 3/
~Last act is different due to a missing OD.

Shooting Star (Bad Company): 2/FRS, 2/1p-ESF, 2/ESF, 2/ESF, 3/, 2/1p-ESP(45%), 2/1p-ESF
~Same path essentially but you lose a OD phrase on 4th act.

Sky Full of Stars , A (Coldplay): 3/, 3/
~Same path, just lose first act.

Take Me Out: 2/AT-2p-ESF, 4/
~Losing an OD makes it worth it to activate a bit later on the ESF.

This Is a Call (Foo Fighters): 2/, 2/AT-sk1, 2/AT, 2/
~Almost the same path but the the 1st act RS is reduced to a simple 2/ due to a lost OD phrase.

Uncontrollable Urge (Devo): 3/, 2/sk1, 2/1p-ESF, 2/
~Slightly different last act.

Wasted Years (Iron Maiden): 2/, 2/, 2/, 3/sk1-ESF
~One OD phrase is lost and a special path is possible to do where the last 2 acts are combined still getting 1 phrase per OD.

Welcome to the Neighborhood (Libyans): 4/, 2/sk1, 2/
~Last act loses an OD.

White Wedding (Part 1) (Billy Idol): 2/BOD, 2/BOD, 2/sk2
~2nd act loses an OD.

Working Man (Vault Edition) (Rush): 2/RS, 2/BOD, 2/BOD, 2/
~Same path but you lose one OD on the last act.

Young Man Blues (The Who): 2/, 3/AT-FRS, 2/sk1, 2/AT
~*The 2nd activation should leave you with 1 OD before taps. Activate as the oncoming notes reach the middle of the OD meter.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for starting this. If you'll maintain it, I'll sticky it. I hate this glitch.

Lovesong
: 2/sk1, 4/
First od-before-taps glitched, other two are not. Just skip one more window on your first activation to compensate.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2018 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I Ran (So Far Away): 2/!, 3/AT, 2/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: The Missing OD Bug and Paths Reply with quote

DosParkers wrote:
Oddly enough, the first phrase doesn't increase your streak multiplier.


This actually applies to all phrases before tapping sections. Not only do they not give any OD, they also don't affect the multiplier. From what I've heard, you don't even need to sing the phrases and your combo won't break.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Critical Acclaim is glitched. The first od phrase to pick up that goes towards the last activation is cancelled.

Working Man Vault Edition also glitched. Last od phrase before the second activation. Believe just doing 2/AT, 2/ will work instead of the 3/AT-AS or 3/AT-FRS, 2/

Interestingly War Pigs is glitched, but the OD phrase that disappears is the one that ends up EwO anyway, so it doesn't affect the score.

And Justice For All is glitched, first od phrase of third activation right before taps disappears.

Saturday Night Special glitched, first od phrase of the last activation. First od phrase of last activation seems to be the popular one to lose. I did 3/BOD instead of 4/sk1-AS, seemed pretty good, got me 1st on the LP board.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if Harmonix is aware of it or working on it?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaptCalamity wrote:
Does anyone know if Harmonix is aware of it or working on it?
There's a thread on reddit too, so I know they've seen it, but they havent said anything, so either they're working on it or pretending it doesn't exist.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a Call (Foo Fighters) is glitched at the first AT. Not going to bother continuing with a song once I see the bug.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Critical Acclaim: 3/sk1, 3/sk1, 2/A2T-BOD
Skipping the third activation from the original path. There is two broken OD phrases before the final activation.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jadiou wrote:
Critical Acclaim: 3/sk1, 3/sk1, 2/A2T-BOD
Skipping the third activation from the original path. There is two broken OD phrases before the final activation.


Did some in-game testing and
2/ESF, 3/BOD, 4/A2T-sk1
is worth 300+ points.
You actually get an extra half phrase (2000ish) but because you activate when you only have a 6x multiplier it comes out to only 300-500 more points.

Thanks for the heads up on the glitch!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take Me Out: 2/AT-sk1-2p-ESF, 4/, EwO
You get more points with this ESF than if you activated after the taps like in the original path. The score with this path caps at 211,148. (The 'EwO' is in the original path too but not noted in the SH path)
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jadiou wrote:
Take Me Out: 2/AT-sk1-2p-ESF, 4/, EwO
You get more points with this ESF than if you activated after the taps like in the original path. The score with this path caps at 211,148. (The 'EwO' is in the original path too but not noted in the SH path)


Need to test this in-game, but
3/, 2/DOD-ESF
should be worth more.

edit: It was worth about 300 less.
Good find.
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