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chaosfreak07
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 Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:12 am Post subject: Beatles 99% glitch? |
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So I was playing TB:RB, and did Can't Buy Me Love. In the middle of one of the phrases, when the pie was a little over halfway full, it was letting me activate Beatlemania in the middle of the phrase. When I finished the song with a 4x still intact, I saw a 99% on the results screen, but it had the 28 phrase streak like the song has.
Some pictures show 100% with the streak the song should have, so why did it show as 99%? Is this a glitch or something? Because for a second I was worried I didn't FC it. I would like some proper explanation here.
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tidus
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Nevermind what I said, I'm a n00b, it seems.
Maybe it was just a coincidence when on 2 of my FCs, I could see myself not getting full credit and then having the glitch. Carry on, I'm a freaking n00b.
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ProffessorJoe  
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:39 am Post subject: |
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actually this glitch is purely a glitch. It has nothing to do with whether or not you dropped some ticks on a phrase. Unfortunately there is no proven method to avoid this glitch. It is purely random and there's not much you can do about it.
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singemfrc 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| ProffessorJoe wrote: | | actually this glitch is purely a glitch. It has nothing to do with whether or not you dropped some ticks on a phrase. Unfortunately there is no proven method to avoid this glitch. It is purely random and there's not much you can do about it. |
Actually I think I found what causes that. It happened to me a LOT when I was grinding Weeps (I think like eight 99% FCs before I figured out what was going on)..What I've noticed is if you miss a phrase and then restart, that miss is somehow carried over to your next play, and it counts you as missing a phrase before the song started, and thus the 99%. (Kinda sorta similar to the 99% overstrum glitch with g/b in gh5) I saw that when I restart, the red flash indicating the phrase miss showed after the restart, so I tried either getting a fab before restarting, or using new song instead of restart, and I haven't gotten it since.
If anyone wants to do the work to prove/disprove it, please report back. I'm not sure if you have to restart REAL fast after missing, or if you like wait a few seconds if it still does it, so test both situations if you test it.
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Valkrinos
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| ProffessorJoe wrote: | | actually this glitch is purely a glitch. It has nothing to do with whether or not you dropped some ticks on a phrase. Unfortunately there is no proven method to avoid this glitch. It is purely random and there's not much you can do about it. |
| singemfrc wrote: | | ProffessorJoe wrote: | | actually this glitch is purely a glitch. It has nothing to do with whether or not you dropped some ticks on a phrase. Unfortunately there is no proven method to avoid this glitch. It is purely random and there's not much you can do about it. |
Actually I think I found what causes that. It happened to me a LOT when I was grinding Weeps (I think like eight 99% FCs before I figured out what was going on)..What I've noticed is if you miss a phrase and then restart, that miss is somehow carried over to your next play, and it counts you as missing a phrase before the song started, and thus the 99%. (Kinda sorta similar to the 99% overstrum glitch with g/b in gh5) I saw that when I restart, the red flash indicating the phrase miss showed after the restart, so I tried either getting a fab before restarting, or using new song instead of restart, and I haven't gotten it since.
If anyone wants to do the work to prove/disprove it, please report back. I'm not sure if you have to restart REAL fast after missing, or if you like wait a few seconds if it still does it, so test both situations if you test it. |
I'm certain that tidus is right, as I have noticed this myself long before this thread. I was surprised by the 99% as well, but clearly could see what would cause it.
As I've noticed, if I cut it close and get 990 points or something for a phrase (talking about if I had a 1x multiplier at the time, for example), still getting a Fab on it (talking about 1x multiplier, just for example), and FC the rest, would it come out to 100%? Nope, 99%. Everytime I've noticed that I might just get most but not completely all, it gives 99%.
It's not some random glitch. It's just not giving you 100% for something you didn't fully fill. When I see that I've gotten full points, I get 100%, if I get a 990 or something on a phrase, but still get a Fab, that's a 99%. |
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ProffessorJoe
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Valkrinos wrote: |
I'm certain that tidus is right, as I have noticed this myself long before this thread. I was surprised by the 99% as well, but clearly could see what would cause it.
As I've noticed, if I cut it close and get 990 points or something for a phrase (talking about if I had a 1x multiplier at the time, for example), still getting a Fab on it (talking about 1x multiplier, just for example), and FC the rest, would it come out to 100%? Nope, 99%. Everytime I've noticed that I might just get most but not completely all, it gives 99%.
It's not some random glitch. It's just not giving you 100% for something you didn't fully fill. When I see that I've gotten full points, I get 100%, if I get a 990 or something on a phrase, but still get a Fab, that's a 99%. |
but it IS some random glitch. I've sang at least a dozen songs that i've dropped ticks and still gotten 100%. And i've sang probably 5 songs or so where i have NOT dropped ticks and gotten a 99%. It sounds like singe is on to something, which is awesome as nobody has been able to figure out what causes it, but i can assure you that you can definately get this glitch WITHOUT dropping ticks, which makes it purely a glitch.
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Icemage
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ProffessorJoe wrote: |
but it IS some random glitch. I've sang at least a dozen songs that i've dropped ticks and still gotten 100%. And i've sang probably 5 songs or so where i have NOT dropped ticks and gotten a 99%. It sounds like singe is on to something, which is awesome as nobody has been able to figure out what causes it, but i can assure you that you can definately get this glitch WITHOUT dropping ticks, which makes it purely a glitch. |
Agreed. I noticed this problem way back when TB:RB was first released, and got this pic to prove it's not dropped ticks:
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Valkrinos
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ProffessorJoe wrote: | | Valkrinos wrote: |
I'm certain that tidus is right, as I have noticed this myself long before this thread. I was surprised by the 99% as well, but clearly could see what would cause it.
As I've noticed, if I cut it close and get 990 points or something for a phrase (talking about if I had a 1x multiplier at the time, for example), still getting a Fab on it (talking about 1x multiplier, just for example), and FC the rest, would it come out to 100%? Nope, 99%. Everytime I've noticed that I might just get most but not completely all, it gives 99%.
It's not some random glitch. It's just not giving you 100% for something you didn't fully fill. When I see that I've gotten full points, I get 100%, if I get a 990 or something on a phrase, but still get a Fab, that's a 99%. |
but it IS some random glitch. I've sang at least a dozen songs that i've dropped ticks and still gotten 100%. And i've sang probably 5 songs or so where i have NOT dropped ticks and gotten a 99%. It sounds like singe is on to something, which is awesome as nobody has been able to figure out what causes it, but i can assure you that you can definately get this glitch WITHOUT dropping ticks, which makes it purely a glitch. |
Huh. I was almost certain that was it though. I hardly see it, except when, it seems, that I only slightly got under the max points. Perhaps it can glitch at sometimes, but I'm pretty sure everytime I 100% it but know that I got maybe 990 instead of the 1000, it gives 99%. So perhaps there's a glitch, as well as an actual time it happens (like when you just barely Fab something and not get full points)
| Icemage wrote: | | ProffessorJoe wrote: |
but it IS some random glitch. I've sang at least a dozen songs that i've dropped ticks and still gotten 100%. And i've sang probably 5 songs or so where i have NOT dropped ticks and gotten a 99%. It sounds like singe is on to something, which is awesome as nobody has been able to figure out what causes it, but i can assure you that you can definately get this glitch WITHOUT dropping ticks, which makes it purely a glitch. |
Agreed. I noticed this problem way back when TB:RB was first released, and got this pic to prove it's not dropped ticks:
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Huh. Well, technically, since that isn't near the max score, perhaps squeezing happened to give you an even number. However, I assume you're showing me to say that that is just from doing the phrases without squeezing and you still ended up with that. So, I guess in all cases this isn't as open-and-shut as it seemed. |
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singemfrc
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Whether or not its near the max score is completely irrelevant, the streak is what is important in that picture, and 25 is the FC streak.
I am (ironically) about 99% sure that I'm right about what causes the glitch, because I never ever get it when I remember to try and avoid it. As soon as I get lazy and start doing restart, it happens again.
Side note, instead of doing new song or waiting till you get a fab, I've been trying just doing restart twice, since thats faster, and havent gotten the glitch yet that way.
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Valkrinos
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| Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| singemfrc wrote: | Whether or not its near the max score is completely irrelevant, the streak is what is important in that picture, and 25 is the FC streak.
I am (ironically) about 99% sure that I'm right about what causes the glitch, because I never ever get it when I remember to try and avoid it. As soon as I get lazy and start doing restart, it happens again.
Side note, instead of doing new song or waiting till you get a fab, I've been trying just doing restart twice, since thats faster, and havent gotten the glitch yet that way. |
I wasn't saying it being near the max score was important, I was just saying that I wouldn't have known for sure, off the top of my head, if he had squeezed any and happened to still get that even amount somehow. Unlikely, sure, but I was just saying.
Perhaps it could be the restarting thing, I've just only really known it when I miss a smidge from a phrase. Perhaps it could be both, because I'm pretty sure if you cut it close and Fab a phrase but not get the full points, it still gives me 99%, so perhaps there can be multiple things that cause it. Getting a Fab but cutting it close, and the glitch you talk about. Who knows. |
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ProffessorJoe
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| Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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dropping ticks on a phrase will definately cause you to get the 99% glitch most of the time (90% + of the time it seems). I was just pointing out that it can happen even if you don't drop ticks  and thank you icemage for conveniently having proof of just that 
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Valkrinos
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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| ProffessorJoe wrote: | | dropping ticks on a phrase will definately cause you to get the 99% glitch most of the time (90% + of the time it seems). I was just pointing out that it can happen even if you don't drop ticks and thank you icemage for conveniently having proof of just that |
I wouldn't call getting slightly less than full points on a phrase but getting enough to Fab it and getting a 99% at the end even though you kept a streak the whole time being a glitch though. That seems like the programmers intended that. If people are getting it from the restart thing, that would be a glitch, I'd say.
I'm not sure how often you guys notice it happening from the restart, but a few days ago I restarted on a song, and I believe it was said in this thread that if they restarted and saw the little animation that appeared like a miss to them, that they'd get 99% instead of 100%. I saw an animation happen near my multiplier there after I restarted, and I still got 100% just fine. So perhaps it doesn't always happen from that. |
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BubbleBobble
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: |
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just thought I would share that this happened to me playing Octopus's Garden on solo expert vocals earlier this evening
I'm 99% certain that I hit 100% of the phrases, and yet I still ended up with 99% somehow 
so yeah I guess it's a glitch |
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CHawk
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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I should also state that the idea of it glitching when you restart after missing a phrase is also moot.
When WA-TB:RB was working on FBFC'ing songs, we got the 99% glitch on Good Morning Good Morning, as well as Because, and we did both of those on the first try. Meaning, as Joe said, it's purely a glitch. Nothing can really be played into account of why it would show 99% instead of 100%.
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singemfrc
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| CHawk wrote: | I should also state that the idea of it glitching when you restart after missing a phrase is also moot.
When WA-TB:RB was working on FBFC'ing songs, we got the 99% glitch on Good Morning Good Morning, as well as Because, and we did both of those on the first try. Meaning, as Joe said, it's purely a glitch. Nothing can really be played into account of why it would show 99% instead of 100%. |
Just because it can show up randomly does not mean there is not also another cause. |
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