UGH. PttS blasts are driving me INSANE.

**googleimage** · Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1229

No, the triple blasts in Visions are a lot slower. However, on a per-hand basis, they're faster because they're simultaneous blasts rather than alternating blasts.

For the red-blue blasts, you'll count it as follows:

1-.tri-.plet /2-.tri-.plet/ 3-. tri-.plet

Each "syllable" will fall on a

. Your best bets to get a hang of the foot speed are the blue stream in between the PttS blasts, and the expert guitar chart where the blasts occur (it's the snaking all-strum section immediately after the

sustains). The

notes in the blasts are exactly on those strums.
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**YaMaNick92** · Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 492 Location: moon twp pa

this is what ive come up with for ptts. if you treat it like this: (yo r yo r yo r)(yo r yo r yo r)(yo r yo r yo r) etc, or in other words, triplets(which, they are), it might make it a bit easier. but basically, you think of it as basically accenting the first note of the successive triplet pattern(in this case, the yo) and you should basically keep time that way. if it helps, the bolded notes are what you accent every time. also, it needs to be understood that the bass is pretty fast, so that makes the blasts very difficult. being as i still suck at every hittin those blasts(ive started to combo them, yet to pass the song though

) i'm still not sure if its better to play the bass heel up or down. also, the overdrive after the blasts sucks...its annoying to like ever hit for some reason, so stop playing prior if you have to, cause im pretty sure providing you activate after the blue blasts break, i think you can end at the end of the blasts. im done talking
edit: sorry for saying everything everyone pretty much said

**novicedrummer** · Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Posts: 27

thanks for the help guys. i think it would be great if someone could make a sticky on identifying what to count certain patters as and how to count them. i know how to count basic 1/4, 1/8 and 1/16 notes but the most obvious question i forgot to ask in the first place was how the hell you can telk by looking at the note lane that those blasts are triplets becuase they dont look like your basic triplet.

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**ProffessorJoe** · Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject:

to be honest, i think everyone is overanalyzing these =/ i'm not saying that any of this info isn't useful, but i just think you don't need it to play this section.

This section is FAST. And for most people, (especially those like me who have no musical or real instrument background) counting those blasts as triplets is just going to slow you down.

I definately have had my best success when i just got to the blasts and said "ok pad spamming time" I think you just gotta forget about everything you know and just play them really really fast, and hope you get the right speed. After a while of trying to find the right speed it will either click or you will be able to tell if you are going too fast, and then you can adjust from there.
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**googleimage** · Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1229

I need to bump this because I'm starting to become convinced this shit is broken. Even in practice mode, I can drop it down to 50% speed and still only hit about 50% of the notes. It goes well for a couple seconds, where I can hold a 4X and then it inexplicably just stops registering - this holds true for all speeds (although, strangely, I fare best at 70-80% speed, and can occasionally do well at 90%, and have occasionally pulled a 4X at full speed). I've played around with my calibration, lather-rinse-repeat, and I can't seem to resolve this.

I don't get it, because I combo the Embedded alts with ease. I've passed every other song I own - Visions, Embedded, Guns Of Summer, They're Red Hot, etc. And I can... not... pass... this... freaking... song. The best I've done is halfway through the 3rd set of blasts. It's clearly not impossible, because people have passed it, but I feel like I've tried EVERYTHING on it. So what might be going wrong here?
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The biggest tip I've found is to not slow down. You'll think you're not slowing down, but you are ever so slightly and it's messing you up. What I did is go into practice mode and play them. I try to hit it, but if I mess up I DON'T STOP PLAYING AT ALL. I continue at the same speed because at the end when it finishes I'll finish either slightly before or slightly after it's supposed to finish, telling me whether I'm fast or slow.

Another thing I do is just try to line up every 3rd BO. and I make sure I hit 3 B's and 3 O's every time. The R is just kinda there doing it's thing automatically. This is what really helps you to not slow down.

I couldn't hit this for the longest time thing a couple days ago (after not playing the song for weeks) it magically clicked and I passed 3 times in a row, and the last time I actually combo'd through one of the blasts.
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**Choft** · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:48 pm Post subject:

I used to suck horribly at blasts until I got double bass. That seems to help a lot for me. I can hit these blasts pretty well, probably could get 85-90% on the whole section. My advice is pretty much HellAshes advice, focus on syncing the bass with your right hand and just let your left hand fall. I'm a drummer in a metal band and it's not much of a translation from the real kit to a rock band one when it comes to blasts. At least for me. I dunno how it'd be for other people. But anyways I'm drifting off. My point is, it's just rolls with bass every other hit at its simplest.
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**googleimage** · Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1229

The dragon has finally been slain. It only took a thousand tries, but in the end, the "every-third-bass-hit" technique won out. I was able to keep the pad streak going like that, and I actually finished the last set of blasts in the high-yellow. Go figure.

**JL87** · Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Posts: 32 Location: Milwaukee, WI

I did pretty much what Hells Ashes said. I practiced it, and rather than do OY-R-OY-R etc., I did OY OY OY OY without the reds, and got the speed down. Then I added in red when I got a bit more comfortable with the speed. It's going to be a process, but once you get it, you'll get better at blasts in general. Oh don't try to do it when you have little energy.

**MarsPhoenix** · Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 377

It seems like it's broken because the engine is really unforgiving when notes end up really close to each other.