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ButtGoblin
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Finland
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Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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JackFr wrote: |
What I'm saying is that there are strum notes that should be charted as hammerons for the sake of being fun. |
Well, on solos maybe, but I really hate when they do that on elsewhere. Like intro on holy wars and lucretia for example. I fucking hate those stupid hopos. |
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Celeles
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 391 Location: Skaville, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know who that one charter at HMX is? You know that guy who NEVER MIXES LEAD AND RHYTHM GUITAR PARTS NO MATTER HOW BORING AND REPETITIVE THE CHART TURNS OUT IN DOING SO.
Examples:
Rock And Roll Star (Oasis)
Song 2 (Blur)
Solo in Message In A Bottle (Police)
Thrash Unreal (Against Me!)
This may just be me, but I'm a much bigger fan of charts that switch things up...I'd rather not play the same 3 notes over and over again, thank you very much.
Compare the GH5 chart of Blur's 'Song 2' to the Lego Rock Band version. GH5 often switches between the lead line and the rhythm part on guitar, transforming a moderately simple song into something at least somewhat interesting. The LRB chart, on the other hand, has you playing a yellow note for about 45 seconds straight during the chorus. Who HONESTLY thinks this is a good idea? Is it just laziness? Do the respective charters just not feel like having to do all the extra work to switch between parts?
I dunno, it just really bugs me to see charts with a lot of potential turn out so bland. _________________
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xtreme2252
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 580 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Song: The Perfect Drug
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Very poor chart. Most of it is okay, but there's lots of incorrectly charted octaves, like the high pitched phrase which should be charted a full octave above the previous phrase. Also, the whispering part right before the drum solo should be charted as talkies.
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Song: Black Hole Sun
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: The chart for the most part feels more monotone than it should be, especially the "In my eyes..." etc. parts.
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Song: Stumble and Fall
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinion: This is one of the worst charts I have seen. I am almost certain it's incorrectly charted. it's very noticeable in the phrase "and then I found out it was just...nothing at all" The end part drops an entire octave, which really doesn't allow you any way to make it sound right since you're either gonna sing one part way too deeply or you're gonna sing it as the same note, and it does this a few times throughout the song. Also, when the singer does the "I get over the brrrrrrr-eaks" phrases, it's charted as steady notes. Also, for whatever reason, they didn't use the album version of this song which has no swearing and instead used a version that they had to censor, which is really bizarre since it's Lego Rock Band.
Instrument: Drums
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: For the most part, it's a decent chart, but one part in particular misses out a snare http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haF-VPrMElg (at 1:42)
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Song: No Time
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Awesome chart. Very easy but fun to sing.
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Song: Constant Motion
Instrument: Drums
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Probably my favourite drum song to play because of the awesome part right after the yellow-blue sticking part right up until the end of the song
Instrument: Guitar
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Hardest song for me. The solo is absolute bull and the timing gets so insanely small that I can't hit a single note at the sliding part at the end of the solo usually.
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Song: Kool Thing
Instrument: Drums
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Super fun and epic. The first hard drum song I could nearly FC
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Song: Seven
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: A good, but surprisingly difficult chart. Still very fun to play.
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Song: Something In the Way
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Great chart, although I think it sounds much better to sing the high parts an octave lower.
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Song: Sprode
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Wicked chart, tons of fun to play.
Instrument: Drums
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: The chart is dumbed down for some reason and some snares are clearly not charted.
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Song: Entangled
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Great chart. Only criticism is the phrase that says "silver mirror" seems a bit off.
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Song: March of the Pigs
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Awesome song, terrible chart. Listen to it and look at the chart. there are vast differences, especially in the last few phrases.
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Song: Capital G
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: The most well-charted NIN song on the game.
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Song: Prayer of the Refugee/Drain You/Man In The Box
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Although I can nearly do them, the low parts are charted a bit too low.
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Song: Savior
Instrument: Guitar
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: At one strumming part the stop charting it as strumming a bit too soon and put a sustained note in its place
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Song: (Don't Fear) The Reaper
Instrument: Drums
Difficulty: Hard
Opinions: I can barely pass the outro of this even though I can do it on expert. the last half of it changes it up so that it is basically the same as the expert chart, minus the first pedal and first snare hit, which really feels unnatural to play.
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Song: They Say
Instrument: Guitar
Difficulty: Any
Opinions: I absolutely HATE how they chart only the rhythm and completely lower the guitar bends to make their charting seem more accurate.
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Song: B.Y.O.B.
Instrument: Vocals
Difficulty: Expert
Opinions: Awful chart. they blend together Serj and Daron's vocals into the chart and they chart it as if it's meant for robots. Very funny that Guitar Hero stole this awful chart. Also, the Toxicity chart wasn't charted in the correct octaves, but Guitar Hero decided to actually put some effort in this time and fix that. Hopefully future SoaD songs will be a bit more accurately charted. |
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NoahTheDuke
Joined: 27 Sep 2008 Posts: 178
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Celeles wrote: | I dunno, it just really bugs me to see charts with a lot of potential turn out so bland. | Dude, I totally know. What the hell. Also, Can I Play With Madness has the rhythm guitar charted during the chorus, which hurts my heart so much. I Just got the Flight 666 pack, and it's like HMX said to themselves, "How can we mess up each of these charts in some way?"
*shakes head* Sadness.
Noah |
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FretMachine-SH
Joined: 27 Sep 2008 Posts: 365 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I've been trying to e-mail HMX twice about this but got no response, so I'll just rage in this thread instead.
Why the hell did the worker/-s who charted the Iron Maiden pack, Rust in Peace and TGST feel a need to chart everything as far away as possible from the actual playing, like charting every other bent sustain or whammy as more than just one note? When you bend a sustained note on a real guitar, you don't do a shit-fast trill, you just strike one note. Since RB has no real ability (Yet) to emulate bending or whammying as part of the charts, JUST LET IT BE AND CHART ONLY ONE NOTE. It doesn't make it more fun to play, it only makes you have to mash more buttons and is a highly unprofessional way of making songs unneededly harder to play, not to mention it looks bad. _________________
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bclare
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 6048 Location: Boston
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:42 am Post subject: |
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FretMachine-SH wrote: | I've been trying to e-mail HMX twice about this but got no response, so I'll just rage in this thread instead.
Why the hell did the worker/-s who charted the Iron Maiden pack, Rust in Peace and TGST feel a need to chart everything as far away as possible from the actual playing, like charting every other bent sustain or whammy as more than just one note? When you bend a sustained note on a real guitar, you don't do a shit-fast trill, you just strike one note. Since RB has no real ability (Yet) to emulate bending or whammying as part of the charts, JUST LET IT BE AND CHART ONLY ONE NOTE. It doesn't make it more fun to play, it only makes you have to mash more buttons and is a highly unprofessional way of making songs unneededly harder to play, not to mention it looks bad. |
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dore
Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 1244 Location: Boone, NC
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Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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or unnecessarily
There are enough players that bitch that stuff is undercharted when they don't chart whammies/trills/whatever as multiple notes, so for the harder stuff it's understandable that they would chart it that way. I personally hate the final solo in GH3's Raining Blood, but I'm sure a ton of people would've complained if it was all sustains instead of batshit crazy trills _________________
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B-Fuzz
Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Posts: 2015 Location: Northern Minnestota (up on the tip :P)
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:56 am Post subject: |
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This is less of an opinion on a note chart, but rather asking for opinions on how people think a song will be charted. How do you guys think HMX is going to chart the middle section of Roundabout on drums? That sounds like it could be scary. _________________
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GanonMetroid
Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 1460
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:05 am Post subject: |
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B-Fuzz wrote: | This is less of an opinion on a note chart, but rather asking for opinions on how people think a song will be charted. How do you guys think HMX is going to chart the middle section of Roundabout on drums? That sounds like it could be scary. | That section was the reason I chose to do a custom of Siberian Khatru instead. There are probably actual drums beneath all that auxiliary percussion, but who knows. _________________
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inv4der
Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9656 Location: Meridian, ID
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:34 am Post subject: |
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B-Fuzz wrote: | This is less of an opinion on a note chart, but rather asking for opinions on how people think a song will be charted. How do you guys think HMX is going to chart the middle section of Roundabout on drums? That sounds like it could be scary. |
DRUM SOLO! _________________
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LadyDude
Joined: 01 Aug 2010 Posts: 6
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I have one thing to say...
the Guitar Chart to Smells Like Teen Spirit is pretty bad. That's really the only superbly bad charting job I've seen them do, but one mistake is no big deal, and it's certainly not unplayable or anything. |
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TensionSpree
Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 566
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:15 am Post subject: |
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LadyDude wrote: | I have one thing to say...
the Guitar Chart to Smells Like Teen Spirit is pretty bad. That's really the only superbly bad charting job I've seen them do, but one mistake is no big deal, and it's certainly not unplayable or anything. |
All of Nevermind has terrible charting. SLTS has it the worst. The strumming is so freaking terrible. Even funnier during the "yay, yay, yay" parts after the choruses.
Drain You's spacey secton was terribly charted. Instead of a trill it sounds more like:
GxxGxx
xRxxxxx
xxYxxxY
x being empty space or something. The strumming in Stay Away's intro is bad too if I recall, and Lithium was overcharted too. _________________
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CyberRaiza
Joined: 02 Oct 2008 Posts: 1194
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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i FUCKING HATE IT WHEN HMX DOESNT CHART STRUM NOTES AS STRUM NOTES, IT SHOULD BE ACCURATE BECAUSE ITS REALLY NOT MUCH IF ANY HARDER THAT WAY.
Now that thats over
Smells Like Teen Spirit or If Youre Wondering if i want you to definitely have the 1st worst charting. to make it short.
SLTS should have the same notes being played durin the hello hello part as the verse and the entire chorus is terribly charted, you play a totla of 4 different chords (yes all u play is chords) the whole time, 5 if you want to count the muted part.
The Weezer song is 100% 3 note power chords (so they should probly be charted as two note chords wit a space in between) except for the bridge. There's no hammerons at all or single notes. Almost the entire song is mischarted. _________________
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Chucklestyle
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 657 Location: Wauwatosa, WI
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Fly Like An Eagle has just won my most hated guitar chart award. _________________
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xtreme2252
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 580 Location: Surrey
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Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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I don;t know much about real guitars, but I think Fire and In Too Deep have bad guitar charts. |
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