Something Shameless The Beatles cheat

**Mastacraker** · Last edited by Mastacraker on Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:40 am; edited 36 times in total

Yes we recorded harmonies.
We won't do it again.
No Not-Legit scores are posted.
The Rules about Harmonies are explained again in this thread
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**r0bd0g** · Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 327 Location: Canada

I just found out that these guys were prerecording themselves singing some of the harmonies. Iggy confirmed this himself in our band's chatbox.

You know at first, it was disheartening. We put a lot of effort into a Taxman FBFC, literally took us days, and then you come in, half-ass your way through the song with full harmonies and beat us by a landslide. But you know what, it my be disheartening, but at least I could respect that you were beating us fair and square.

But now I find out that you're sometimes prerecording the vocals? I have absolutely zero respect for cheaters; your accomplishments are essentially meaningless.

When will you be making the next logical step and prerecording the whole FB, using prerecorded vocals for the vocals and bots for the rest of the instruments? Maybe you should starting using emulators and TASing in order to get some FB optimals.

None of you are welcome at our chatbox.

**dudextr** · Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1000

**Iggy-Sparks** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject:

Thanks but you forgot your banner

"I'm a bad loser and can't deal with it" banner

Recorded harmonies are not considered as cheating.

I know all the harmonies for each song, I recorded all by myself, but I can't make two other Iggy-sparks, so that's why I did my own harmonies.

Actually a lot of people did that to get the achievement, it's just that I use them on expert since they are more precise than the ones you can find on the internet.
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**Mastacraker** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:32 pm Post subject:

**Mastacraker** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject:

**Iggy-Sparks** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject:

I would like to add that learning all the harmonies, it's like I learned 44 songs AGAIN, and TWO TIMES, and then you say, we didnt try hard to get Taxman ?

One day, our band are gonna meat up for real... then we can do real triple harmonies, but for the moment, online harmonies doesnt exist, if it did, it would have been long time since we used it.
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**Mastacraker** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: Another cheater gets cought then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoSFTyypyYA

Xplat with harmonies? If you did it with Solo vocals you can say some but no sorry I don't eat it
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**arvain** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:11 pm Post subject:

Hmmm, i'm not exactly sure what's considered to be cheating here (cause i don't have TB:RB and i had to ask how it exactly worked)....

What i know is that it's extremely mature to go and flame on people and create offensive banners FIRST, before even asking something like "hey guys, did you record yourself before ?

not so fair" or something like that

From experience, i know Iggy ain't no cheater. He 1) is an excellent pather (we sortof went through the whole rb2 vox-tar setlist), 2) wouldn't mind discussing something that you consider not being fair.

Also, i have two questions :

- What's cheating ? Having your OWN VOICE fcing stuff for the harmonies parts when yourself are singing the main voice ? Well, if you want to play both parts, you sure can't divide yourself and sing two different parts at the same time. It's not as if you're asking someone else, it's your own voice. Get over it, it's not even CLOSE to playing the gh vox freeforms with a keyboard or anything.

- Isn't there a different leaderboard on SH for full band with 1 singer, and full band with harmonies ?

And if you're talking about the xbl leaderboards... -_____________- then fail, there's like NOTHING justifying such a bad flaming.

Iggy, mastacracker, good job on taking time to path the hell out of everything, and... looking forward to seeing Iggy able to sing two different songs at the same time !! :facepalm:

Note : WHY ON EARTH would i go crying and insulting people playing on a WT drumkit for beating my career score on the xbl (especially if i were playing wii u_u) on ghWT, when i already know that they can have more points on the orange cymbals and accent notes ?? That's.... meaningless, i'd just be -an attention whore, -a bad loser, - STUPID !!

EDIT : btw, insulting and flaming and going all "baw cheaterz you'll be hated and banned" is 1) the dumbest thing to do (especially on SH) when you're angry to have your scores beaten (OMG, someone beats my score because they play with harmonies and i don't, that's SO WEIRD...), 2) completely out of place, since xbl and cwf (or whatever the wii equivalent is) doesn't seem like something to discuss on SH, let alone on someone else's acc thread !

**Mastacraker** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject:

Or using A World Tour guitar so they have their back button. Or double bass pedals so they can kick better and quicker. Even some singers use a wistle to activate. Everybody has his tricks. We wanted to try the game out in Full Harmonies mode and we did.

I thought scorehero was about getting the best scores. And let people show it. Thats what we did, but how we did maybe not fair to everybody. But you can do it yourself too If you are so dying to get Xplat scores. Do it then too.

I will remove the scores that are done with harmonies of us. The ones that are done with real harmonies will off course stay on. As in All you need is love and I wanna be your man

But I will keep this threat that everybody has acces to our paths we made, because we know we help alot of people with our video's.
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**dudextr** · Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1000

**Iggy-Sparks** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:40 pm Post subject:

So this is just a difference of opinion.

Our goal was to get the best score we could get.
I didnt think that recording my own voice would be considered as cheating since it's still me singing and not a robot voice.

Of course it's easier cause you don't need three persons to do it, but everybody hasn't got two vocalists friends that are ready to put so much effort in a game.

We won't submit any of our score that are done with pre-recorded harmonies on Scorehero, but on the leaderboards, they are here so we can't do so much about that.

We will certainly go for solo vocals on full band later because we also would like to be able to submit our scores on Scorehero.

I am sorry to have started this thing, my intentions were not bad. Since I knew nobody that would want to sing harmonies for scoring, I decided to do them myself.

Unfortunately, I can't make two voices at the same time, and no online system exist for the moment for harmonies.

I would like to apologize if this is frustrating for the other bands, just don't count us in your competition because it's like comparing a 3 players band with a full band.

And please, the wii players from the other band, stop accusing us of stealing your paths, stop post stupid comments on our video about how much better your band is.
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**RJUCPU** · Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Posts: 1827 Location: Scottsdale, AZ

First of all, I think it's good that you guys are not entering your scores with recorded harmonies on SH. Thank you from all of us for the consideration and integrity.

As for the XBL Leaderboards, whether anyone likes it or not, it's accepted. There are MANY people who have done pre-recorded harmony vocals only scores. While those of us who actually have to work through doing them simultaneously with another person (or persons) may not like it, that's just the way it is and there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it. This is essentially no different. What really matters in this world of screwed up leaderboards are the scores HERE, on SH.

Also, this is from the Vocals Harmonies Discussion Thread and should clear up any confusion over what is officially acceptable on Scorehero:

**arvain** · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:11 pm Post subject:

**dudextr** · Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Posts: 1000