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Breakdown of the 2 Un-FCed Guitar Songs (Voodoo Child FCed)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do believe that picture proofs are easier to fake, but we also need to remember that picture proofs are more convenient. Not everyone has a way to record videos.

Compromise: Relatively easy songs can still be proofed with pictures, but Chiasm or OGaP? Vids or it didn't happen.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To build on that, there are a couple of factors I think we have to consider if we want to keep using picture proof for high-level FCs:

1. Is the player someone we trust and/or someone who has shown a high enough skill level to potentially FC it?
2. Would this be the first FC?

I definitely agree that we could still picture proof, but it depends on the context.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

expertwin wrote:
I do believe that picture proofs are easier to fake, but we also need to remember that picture proofs are more convenient. Not everyone has a way to record videos.

Compromise: Relatively easy songs can still be proofed with pictures, but Chiasm or OGaP? Vids or it didn't happen.


I think this is a good compromise to the current situation
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Scratch47  
 




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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having seen the leaderboards...shit. I'm way more sceptical now.
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm.....I ran into someone through band qp a week or two ago and they fc'd chiasm on gtr but it looked really weird from my perspective since the guy had the same infinite od that was in one of those vids posted and after the song ended, (for me at least) the chart lane and od keep going for at least another 40 secs. I guess I have my answer as to how it was done now lol

semi-unrelated and might be old but I also saw a 100% on leaderboards for the same song but on reg drums. Is it safe to assume that this was faked too?
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2014 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP here, just want to let everyone know that I am aware of the situation regarding Pulse of the Maggots. I saw it within a day or two of it being posted and was immediately skeptical, and I see now that I was right to be (what with all the Chiasm nonsense that has happened since). I actually have a suspicion that this is legit and that JPrez is just trolling what remains of the community...I don't really get the humor in that, but if that's what he wants to do, then whatever. Regardless, I am not yet convinced of the legitimacy of this FC and that is reflected in the lack of an update.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG such cheat
Very skill
Much OD
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Scratch47  
 




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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lemme guess, that guy is 'Immaculate Doge' on the leaderboards...nuff said
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scratch47 wrote:
Lemme guess, that guy is 'Immaculate Doge' on the leaderboards...nuff said
It's just Glide me with a changed gamertag
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...right.
Well, he's been getting scores way above and beyond the previous leaderboard no.1s on set songs. He supposedly FC'd TTITN2 bass but the only proof he gave was a picture - I'm starting to doubt his claims, especially considering that he might be trolling.


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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2014 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is kinda obvious Glide Me is trolling...
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't rely only on pictures or Leaderboard scores.

I made this video http://youtu.be/h9_NwuWJ_D8 for who don't know how simple it is making a kind of BOT for Rockband 3. It isn't necessary any type of modding or anything like this. The PC can get 100% of notes automatically, the person only needs to choose when use overdrive for best pathing.

My theory is that many people know how to cheat using MIDI PRO Adapter and have been using it for years in secret.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glide Me/Immaculate Doge is using a Pro Guitar file hack that makes every 8 beat OD a super OD. Just Google search for Ziggy's Pro Upgrades. Many people, including myself, are using them to level the playing field for people like oX Reload Xo glitching hundreds of songs. There are over 300 currently created pro guitar files and it takes ~90 seconds to make a new one.

If anyone knows how NawYouSuckIt got his score on When You Were Young, please let me know. I've heard that people can add their own OD or map their guitar chart to bass for a 6x multiplier. I've used the pro guitar glitch on that song and that person somehow has 20k over second place.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Level the playing field by cheating as well is not the answer that just makes it worse, so don't.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheating yourself has never been the proper answer to cheating by others.

It's a shame use of SH died out, because it really is the only alternative to the official leaderboards, which clearly are not moderated.
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