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KingJaames
Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 8
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:23 am Post subject: |
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You can call me out for cheating if you wish, but I see no problem with gaining vengeance on legit scores that I worked very hard for. These guys have no regard for the legit high score on a song. They'll take it in one play without even thinking about it and laugh at you for losing your hard work. I don't glitch songs that haven't been glitched. I glitch songs that have already been ruined by these people. I see no issue there. Why should I just let them take my scores without fighting back? |
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Fretmaster91
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:35 am Post subject: |
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inv4der wrote: | Cheating yourself has never been the proper answer to cheating by others.
It's a shame use of SH died out, because it really is the only alternative to the official leaderboards, which clearly are not moderated. |
SH leaderboards wouldn't help a thing. If you had 150,200 on a song, I could just path it with my pro guitar glitch to get 150,300 by hoarding/wasting OD. Take a picture for proof after the song is over and viola, leaderboard loopholes. |
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expertwin
Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 2244 Location: Meh.
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Fretmaster91 wrote: | SH leaderboards wouldn't help a thing. If you had 150,200 on a song, I could just path it with my pro guitar glitch to get 150,300 by hoarding/wasting OD. Take a picture for proof after the song is over and viola, leaderboard loopholes. |
RIP in peace photo proofs. _________________
Does not leave my sig until Chrisssss FCs TDWF on Hard Bass.
Does not leave my sig until dramacomic FCs Indians on Expert Bass.
2015/09/20 The date I became Free Bird #200
@ataeaf=My Twitter. RB Accomps. GH Accomps. Nobody reads them.
voidedalive2x wrote: | of COURSE it's doable, you ninny! Don't you cop out on me now! |
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voidedalive2x
Joined: 29 May 2008 Posts: 7922 Location: jefferson city, MO
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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KingJaames wrote: | You can call me out for cheating if you wish, but I see no problem with gaining vengeance on legit scores that I worked very hard for. These guys have no regard for the legit high score on a song. They'll take it in one play without even thinking about it and laugh at you for losing your hard work. I don't glitch songs that haven't been glitched. I glitch songs that have already been ruined by these people. I see no issue there. Why should I just let them take my scores without fighting back? |
Because then you're no worse than the cheaters you're trying to fight against. You're He Who Fights Monsters.
And then those of us who have the integrity to not cheat back will probably have to report you for cheating as well.
Also, considering that SH as a whole REALLY prides itself on having very accurate paths, all someone would have to do is path out the song and then compare it to your score to see that it's fake. Of course, you may think that there's some leeway for songs with really, really hard UB/100% squeezes, or something like that, but that would just put you under more scrutiny, really.
Expertwin: You do know that "RIP in peace" is redundant, right? _________________
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inv4der
Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9658 Location: Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:07 am Post subject: |
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voidedalive2x wrote: | Expertwin: You do know that "RIP in peace" is redundant, right? |
Rip in piece any faith I had in scorehero.
Anyway, the thing back in the day was that people always analyzed charts pretty heavily and generally knew what an impossible score was. (This was circe 2006-2008 I guess.) The community was also a lot tighter and people had a better sense of morality I suppose.
Anymore there's maybe 15-20 active posters here and the mods probably still don't know about this. There's certainly not been any comment from any staff on this subject and even if there was it'd be a copy paste "don't do this".
When the most active community RB and GH has that I can think of is the autist chat I can't say that says anything good of the community or its future. (Not that I'm blaming anyone there, it's just not exactly a bastion of mature, legitimate behavior.)
That said, I'd still say that cheating as a response to cheating is not the way to go about things, although I have no suggestions about what else to do. _________________
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expertwin
Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 2244 Location: Meh.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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voided: {thatsthejoke.jpg}
Anyway, it's not like it's the first time leaderboard cheating has happened. Remember GH2 and the impossible scores? There was even one 1 billion+ score on Easy (KitN if I'm not mistaken). It's just a bit harder to detect it since the scores aren't as far off. And of course, trying to cheat back a cheater still makes you a cheater.
And of course, yeah, this site's pretty dead. I'm pretty much the most active person here (scary, I know). _________________
Does not leave my sig until Chrisssss FCs TDWF on Hard Bass.
Does not leave my sig until dramacomic FCs Indians on Expert Bass.
2015/09/20 The date I became Free Bird #200
@ataeaf=My Twitter. RB Accomps. GH Accomps. Nobody reads them.
voidedalive2x wrote: | of COURSE it's doable, you ninny! Don't you cop out on me now! |
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KingJaames
Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 8
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm completely fine with being reported. I want my glitched scores taken down if they patch the glitch. Someone I know received a reply from Harmonix that they are looking into the issue. Hopefully they'll actually do something to make the scores fair again. |
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Lowlander2
Joined: 11 Feb 2012 Posts: 239 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:38 am Post subject: |
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KingJaames wrote: | I'm completely fine with being reported. I want my glitched scores taken down if they patch the glitch. Someone I know received a reply from Harmonix that they are looking into the issue. Hopefully they'll actually do something to make the scores fair again. |
I have extreme doubts Harmonix will do anything to resolve this. They have bigger issues to contend with when it comes to their company assets, including a multitude of other games in development, and Rock Band itself has fallen to the wayside; otherwise, they may have pressured Microsoft to truly resolve the RBN issue. If they're not going to resolve a technical flaw that is completely stopping submission of new songs, with its last gasp being breathed on January 10 of this year, they are not going to resolve the leaderboards, an ultimately auxiliary part of the game.
Besides of which, what can they do? The only method they could possibly have to even hope for a long-term resolution would be another title update, something they said was financially impractical even back when the series was still being developed. Beyond that, they can only appeal to Microsoft and Sony for service bans for those involved, and appealing to the powers-that-be when it comes to the console network infrastructure has worked so well for them in the past, right?
inv4der wrote: | When the most active community RB and GH has that I can think of is the autist chat |
Not sure I'd say that's true, but if you know where I've been for the past twelve or so months, of course you'd figure I'd say that. _________________
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bclare
Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 6048 Location: Boston
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Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Randomly came back here just to check if anyone had FCed OGaP yet. Can't say I'm surprised it hasn't been done. _________________
I'm back I suppose |
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Grand-master
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Posts: 854 Location: Oshawa, ON
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UndeadFil13QC
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 3386 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I'm on it.
Seriously though, how could a human manage to hit 27 NPS trills and fills all over the place and not miss in the "easy" parts? That is just plain insanity.
Pulse of the Maggots on the other hand, I could see that being done. Probably not anytime soon, but we're definitely closer to something. _________________
ULTIMATE GOAL: FC Im The One on GH: Van Halen Expert Guitar
Solo 2A FC Count: 39 (Best runs: many -1s, three outro chokes and two 100% overstrums!)
Side goals: GH Expert Vocals Full Series FC [4/8] | Rock Band Expert Bass Full Series FC [8/9] | COVID Vaccine & Booster 100% FC [4/4]
47| 64| 30| 70| 41| 86| 49| 48| 85| 46| 93| 42 ( 10| 65| 10)
Full Series Total: 701/702 ( 786/787) |
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Peachfanclub
Joined: 02 Nov 2011 Posts: 884 Location: Switch Cartridge / State of Hockey
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Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Should rename this thread to "Has OGaP or PotM been FC'd yet?" for comedic effect.
Will FC'd PotM outro just recently. He say he won't grind for it, but given that he's Will, and he tends to give in to comment section pressure, he'll FC the song within a week. _________________
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Kashic
Joined: 16 Dec 2007 Posts: 484 Location: Cave Creek, Arizona
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:20 am Post subject: |
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The fact that there was exactly a year between the previous two replies is pretty hilarious |
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Midnight-Rider
Joined: 26 Jul 2014 Posts: 707 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:49 am Post subject: |
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RB3 DLC charting is a great tragedy.
Just give it up, this thread isn't worth the attention. |
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inv4der
Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9658 Location: Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Midnight-Rider wrote: | RB3 DLC charting is a great tragedy.
Just give it up, this thread isn't worth the attention. |
I'm sorry? These are still official songs, with no widely accepted proof that they've been FCed. Until that changes this thread is certainly relevant, and there's even new info regarding songs on the list. _________________
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