The Run to the Hills EXPERT Thread

**TheGlow** · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 2748 Location: J Train Brooklyn!

All I hear is how hard this is on hard.
I think ima try and go for it tonight.
I just 5* The Electric Version.
I 5* up to Paranoind. only 4* n half. I put my bass pedal on the floor to the side and all them basses. heheh, i had that thing all over the floor.
And 3* vasoline. Very odd timing there. I finally got it near the end, so 2-3 more runs I think I could 5 it.
5* on sightreads mostly. If not, 2nd try I get it.

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**halcyonryu** · Joined: 09 Sep 2007 Posts: 60

I took this into quickplay on expert and it really did seem easier on expert than on hard. I don't think I would have much trouble with it, problem is I will never see it cause I'll never beat DoA.

**rhythmjunkie** · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject:

hmm.. well i beat it on hard pretty easy. Its not the stamina its the actual rhythm.. i think i'm just going too fast. I got through 57 today

**GurnKiller** · Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2319 Location: Central NJ

This isn't exactly in line with the rest of the discussion that's been going on with this thread, but I think in this song more than any, it is absolutely vital that your lag calibration is set properly.

When I first started playing this (and note, this is still one of the songs I have yet to 5-star), I was breaking a lot of combos and missing a lot of notes. I went back into the lag calibration, shifted it 5 ms (from 15 ms to 20 ms) and it made a WORLD of a difference.

I also think one of the hardest parts is making sure that you're hitting the bass drum EXACTLY on the beats with the red/yellow pad. Although, I'll be honest, I'm much better at odd bass drum patterns (fills in Black Hole Sun, Dead on Arrival, Epic, etc.) than I am with these "four on the floor" songs.
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**rhythmjunkie** · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject:

Lets keep this civil, everyone knows the deepbluevibes rapes the drums, lol. But regarding to actual technique for the Main Verse/ Fast rhythm part-- are you just single sticking very low to the pad or doing rolls of any kind? I'd love to hear some input from someguyps or some other crazy ass who has an amazing score on this song

**zombie1942** · Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 241

the proper way to play this song is to not roll the hihat with doubles... all singles is the way this type of pattern is played...

However, the key to maintaining stamina is accenting the 1 and 5 beats... meaning the very first hi-hat and the snare of each of the 8 beats (the same beats as the bass drum)... this allows for a sort of resting period for the other beats because youre playing them a bit softer... its hard to explain... but if youre trying to play every beat at the same level of pressure or intensity you're going to make your heart, head and ass explode all at the same time...

when you are accenting the 1 and 5 beats to be a bit harder than the others youre able to roll the rest of the singles much smoother cuz youre playing them on either a down or upstroke of the accents... its a flow thing... and its all wrists with exception to the accents... its the forearms slightly moving up and down on the accents that power the wrist's whipping motion and keep everything in check...

getting good at RB drums will just take time for anyone who hasnt played drums simply because you are developing so same sets of skills as a beginner...

VERY IMPORTANT
another thing that I would guess is having a HUGE impact on people's playing and ability to maintain stamina is your grip on the stick... I would guess that 99% of anyone that has never played the drums is holding the sticks wrong... which really goes against your potential to get really good... especailly with RttH since the ability to play this song rests completely on your rebound and control of the stick...

holding drumsticks correctly actually feels weird at first and unnatural which is why everyone starts off holding them wrong... holding them correctly is hugely important.

watch this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vfKj8FGvYAM

I would also agree that playing it on hard would seem harder than expert because of the break in energy ever other beat with the left hand..

This is a very simple and striaght forward song.. its just requires some stick control... I would have to agree that Brainpower is the biggest kick in the balls for me...

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**zombie1942** · Joined: 09 Apr 2007 Posts: 241

I would put money on a big factor in alot of people not being able to pass RttH on expert is their non responsive red and green pads...

I have always been able to pass it but my set would always miss many notes that i was hitting... even with my new set... my new set was only registering every other hit on the red pad... this will make you fail for sure...

then i used the tape method on my red and green pads and hit #3 on the leaderboards the next time i tried...

So make damn sure that alot of your successful efforts are not being blocked because of a crappy drumset.

**rhythmjunkie** · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject:

I finally learned the rhythm! I can combo through most of it now lol. I do see how stamina comes into play now towards the end of the song, unless you have very good stick control/technique. I think I got to 97% Last night! (In quickplay-- still need to beat dont fear the reaper)