Guitar/Bass Optimal Paths - New Site (All songs up to 2010)

**SmugDuckling** · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 576

NEW SITE IS UP

Go to www.apathtoofar.com

Which paths are available?

All paths from Rock Band 1, Rock Band 2, Rock Band: AC/DC and all DLC up to the week of Warped/Maroon 5/Pearl Jam Live.

Coming Soon

- More intelligent activations (the earlier the better)
- Other difficulties
- Maybe Guitar Hero paths (???????) (Don't hold your breath)
- An awesome site

July 13

Change Log (these will be incorporated into the public paths soon):

- Fixed path summary output to get rid of 0 activations. Didn't take into account squeezes extending activations.
- Add whammy amounts to chart including early whammy. *Should* be accurate and matches with ajanata's on 0/0 charts as far as I can tell.
- Added squeeze difficulties on charts.
- Fixed front end squeeze to only start on notes and do multiply sustains by OD.
- Only allow no whammy 0.5 seconds after whammy has been used due to whammy timeout.
- Fixed early whammy times so they do what I expect them to.

June 14

DLC is now out!

Original Post

So, I've written a Guitar/Bass OD optimization program.

It is now out! Grab the charts at http://www.apathtoofar.com

There are paths out for all on-disc songs in the series - Rock Band 1, Rock Band 2 and ACDC.

Please make any bug reports in this thread. I will read every reply. There are likely a TON of issues with these charts. That's where you come in.

Some quick notes about the charts:

- Light purple indicates a squeeze
- Yellow an activation
- A slightly different shade of light purple is early whammy
- Brown is do NOT whammy
- Dark purple is reverse squeeze (do not play the notes under a dark purple region under OD).

Thanks to midgetspy (he did a ton of work in the last few months) and ajanata (for the brilliant chart making and access to midis and various other things).

Frequently Asked Questions

**xslaya22x** · Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 540 Location: Detroit

Wow... this is pretty nice. I've wondered if anyone had been working on optimization software for the overlapping-type OD paths in RB... and as of the last hour GH:WT SP paths as well.

You've developed a very nice tool.

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**SmugDuckling** · Joined: 20 Oct 2007 Posts: 576

I've received a request that I not release this program in order to maintain the competitiveness of Rock Band scores.

I personally don't mind having a Guitar Hero-style situation where the focus is on obtaining optimal scores, but if it's the overwhelming opinion of the community that I not release this, I'll keep it to myself.

What do you think?
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**rkuo** · Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 152

Information wants to be free, yo.

**xeroxgp** · Joined: 14 May 2007 Posts: 1682 Location: Fargo, ND

Would this program really tell you exactly where to use overdrive? I would think even if you knew, you'd still have to be able to execute and squeeze, and hit the solos and 100% it as well.

You'd just be taking away the competition of finding out what the overdrive path is.

I'm neutral on what to do here...:/
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**BobDole** · Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 2150 Location: Troy, New York

I think you should realease it. It won't really diminish competitiveness; it will only save people time. I know that I certainly don't have time to be writing paths for songs, and I'm sure many other people feel the same way. I actually think it's very annoying when I see someone who's not realeasing an optimal path that they have discovered. That's selfish. While this will make it so that the higher ranking people may just be ones who put in more time "score-whoring" easy songs, having optimal paths doesn't actually make you any better. So the best players will still be able to beat everybody else by doing well on the harder songs. It takes a decent amount of skill to even justify looking up paths in the first place.
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**Sully** · Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 4570 Location: Tampa, FL

**Rickles** · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject:

I am all for release. I would LOVE to be able to play rockband competitively.

I respect and thank what the human path makers have done for this community, but it's time to move on. It's time to get the best scores that we can be. I'm very sick of hunting down the 15th place youtube video, just to waste 6 minutes watching get a cruddy path which i will forget, halfway through the song. It's a pain in the ass.

This would TRIPLE my fun in rock band, and that is not an overstatement at all.

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This would take the high score community so much further then where it is now. No longer will we have to Rely on confusing, and inconsistent paths from anyone and everyone.
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Thoughts on the program. It looks good but is pretty tough to read. Implemented Squeezing would really be good.

Also, having the whole number path like 2-2-3-2 on top of the page would help a lot As Seen Here

This program has the power to change the face of competitive rock band scoring. PLEASE PLEASE release it.
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**gdubs** · Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 651 Location: Texas

**Lasfas** · Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject:

You should release it.

Debr (or whoever) Came up with this a long time ago, and never released it, and I really wanted it.

Figure this, As Sully said, Rock Band/Guitar Hero has been out 2-3 years, and everyone who wanted pathing has figured it out by now. This product would be No change to them.

It does however let non pathers have better scores/Higher Star counts.

Let it be Released. It'll make us non pathers happy. :)

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**Strykerx** · Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 3110 Location: Pants

Well, whatever. I could give all of my reasons and whining trying to convince you not to release it, but it won't matter, as the people that want it released will always outnumber me...
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**Yen24** · Joined: 18 Aug 2007 Posts: 543 Location: Winnipeg, MB

Release it. Make Rock Band a game of skill again, not a game of having a better path.
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