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Fedora
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For those wondering, older versions of Excel will not recognize Kawigi's pathing spreadsheet.
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TJShultz
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Kawigi, this is a great resource - thanks for all your hard work on it. I've gone ahead and stickied it to make sure that people can find it easily.
Thanks again!
E: Additionally, please don't start flooding the thread with "congratulations!" posts. Let's keep things related to the topic of the thread.
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| nickb611 wrote: | Alright, let's review.
1) You're using numbers in place of words.
2) You're spelling at the second grade level.
3) You're posting in CAPS.
4) This post is in the wrong place, and should have been in Software.
Conclusion: Custom songs are not your "cup of tea", and I'd suggest undertaking a much more simpler hobby. Perhaps tree watching. |
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Fedora
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Kai: out of curiosity, how did you calculate the possible points for vocals? Is it calculated down to the point or is it more of an estimate? Were they done by hand or processed through some sort of software?
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beingmused 
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Fedora wrote: | | For those wondering, older versions of Excel will not recognize Kawigi's pathing spreadsheet. |
2003 (2004 for the Mac) will open the spreadsheets fine in compatibility mode (you'll be prompted to download a converter tool), there are just some features that won't carry over properly. But the functions and whatnot will work fine. |
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Fedora
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| beingmused wrote: | | Fedora wrote: | | For those wondering, older versions of Excel will not recognize Kawigi's pathing spreadsheet. |
2003 (2004 for the Mac) will open the spreadsheets fine in compatibility mode (you'll be prompted to download a converter tool), there are just some features that won't carry over properly. But the functions and whatnot will work fine. |
Interesting.
When I got the open/save option, trying to directly open it caused an error. Once I downloaded it and opened it from the desktop, it prompted meto download the converter software. (Thanks for the "No it really does work" post.)
Edit: Oh Holy Fuck. It's working now, and it's light years ahead of anything I had been trying to work on. Well done, sir. Well done.
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Kawigi
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Fedora wrote: | | Kai: out of curiosity, how did you calculate the possible points for vocals? Is it calculated down to the point or is it more of an estimate? Were they done by hand or processed through some sort of software? |
I'll assuming I'm "Kai" now (sounds better than "Kaw" I suppose, which would probably be pronounced like "cow"). All I've done for vocals is taken the points for the phrases and evenly distributed them across the time that the singer should be producing sound. It is completely software-generated, nothing was done by hand on any of these (except for writing the software :-) ).
| Fedora wrote: | | Edit: Oh Holy Fuck. It's working now, and it's light years ahead of anything I had been trying to work on. Well done, sir. Well done. |
Thank you, I try. And I could hardly expect to get as many first place scores as Barre Exam got in RB1 without using space-age technology, right?
The main thing you may miss if you use an older version of Excel is that some of the "coloring" might work. I don't have it readily available, so I don't know what it will look like, but I just uploaded a copy of the spreadsheet template converted to the Excel 97-2003 format (.xls). And I'm going to assume that anyone still using Office 95 hasn't bought a computer in the last 10 years, and had no business buying a current-gen console.
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LaserEyess
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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I know it will be annoying for short songs and such, but could you extend the template to like 300 measures, because I'm doing panic attack, and the template only works to measure 200, so naturally I don't want to stop playing for 1/3 of the song and get only 2.2 million.
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Kawigi
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| LaserEyess wrote: | | I know it will be annoying for short songs and such, but could you extend the template to like 300 measures, because I'm doing panic attack, and the template only works to measure 200, so naturally I don't want to stop playing for 1/3 of the song and get only 2.2 million. |
Or how about 400 for those people who want to path AJFA or GGHT :-)
I just expand the template myself when I want to do longer songs, and it only takes a minute or so to do - just re-do the formulas for stuff at the bottom further down, then drag down the formulas in each column that has them by selecting the last cell with the formula and draggin the bottom-right corner of that cell down as far as you want it). Maybe sometinme I'll make a few copies with 100, 200, 300 and 400 rows, but that shouldn't hold you back.
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LaserEyess
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Kawigi wrote: |
Or how about 400 for those people who want to path AJFA or GGHT :-)
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Well I took your advice and made my own, and have them saved : D
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rrwoods
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So is the vocal OD stuff fully understood then, or are you still estimating on this? (Sorry if this was already answered; I saw the question but didn't see an answer... it's possible I'm just blind :-P)
I'll download this and give it a shot when I get the chance! |
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Havikk 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| I know this seems like a request more than an opinion, but would it be possible for Hard Difficulty versions? Anyways great program, I have it bookmarked so I can make paths while it looks like I'm doing term papers. |
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Kawigi
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| rrwoods wrote: | So is the vocal OD stuff fully understood then, or are you still estimating on this? (Sorry if this was already answered; I saw the question but didn't see an answer... it's possible I'm just blind :-P)
I'll download this and give it a shot when I get the chance! |
I'm not completely sure what you mean by "the vocal OD stuff". Vocals scoring and the effects of overdrive on vocals is reasonably understood and is really only estimated in here. Where you get overdrive in a vocal track has been fully understood for a long time and is in here. Vocal activation points have only recently become understood, and they are not indicated in these files yet.
| Havikk wrote: | | I know this seems like a request more than an opinion, but would it be possible for Hard Difficulty versions? Anyways great program, I have it bookmarked so I can make paths while it looks like I'm doing term papers. |
I considered doing multiple difficulties (or at least Hard stats), but my feeling was that most bands with a serious interest in pathing are all-expert. However, I have an idea for how to basically give everyone most of the features they could want for these, which would include stats for Hard. Still have to develop the idea, though.
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rrwoods
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| Kawigi wrote: | | Vocal activation points have only recently become understood, and they are not indicated in these files yet. |
That part. Although I didn't know that the effects of OD on score were fully understood either, thinking on it now I realize that's fairly easy to determine I suppose. (OD runs out midphrase, what happens, etc... I'm sure I'd find plenty if I did research.) |
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meister
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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when I pasted into the spreadsheet it put everything in the first column =/ how do I fix that?
Edit- I wrote everything myself in in charlene just because it is short and I already pathed it myself and I had no idea what was going on so I unfortunately will have to keep pathing my old way, but at least that doesn't take long for me
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Kawigi
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| meister wrote: | when I pasted into the spreadsheet it put everything in the first column =/ how do I fix that?
Edit- I wrote everything myself in in charlene just because it is short and I already pathed it myself and I had no idea what was going on so I unfortunately will have to keep pathing my old way, but at least that doesn't take long for me |
Paste special -> Text, as noted in the second post somewhere.
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