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duck
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 Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: leaving unwanted bands |
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first off, i understand the whole point in having a limit of bands you can be in is so the person will donate to get an extra spot...but..
for those of us who have no way of donating...how come we can't just delete all the scores in the band if we don't want to be in it anymore? it would prevent people (such as myself) from making new accounts and using those for new bands...and i know making new accounts just for bands is frowned upon and all. |
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singemfrc 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: |
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If that is the reason we can't delete bands then it would be nice if we could just delete the band and not regain the slot. I dont mind paying for more slots I just hate this old unusable band with no scores taking up space.
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IWillKickU
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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If people continually delete bands that have legitimate scores posted, it will undermine the accuracy of the leaderboards. The idea is to get as many bands on the leaderboard as possible to accurately depict ranking. If the second best 4 person band gets disbanded, then everyone artificially would move up a place.
EDIT: and no one has "no way of donating." |
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duck
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| IWillKickU wrote: | If people continually delete bands that have legitimate scores posted, it will undermine the accuracy of the leaderboards. The idea is to get as many bands on the leaderboard as possible to accurately depict ranking. If the second best 4 person band gets disbanded, then everyone artificially would move up a place.
EDIT: and no one has "no way of donating." |
i dont have a credit card. |
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ManfredvonKarma 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| duck wrote: | | IWillKickU wrote: | If people continually delete bands that have legitimate scores posted, it will undermine the accuracy of the leaderboards. The idea is to get as many bands on the leaderboard as possible to accurately depict ranking. If the second best 4 person band gets disbanded, then everyone artificially would move up a place.
EDIT: and no one has "no way of donating." |
i dont have a credit card. |
He probably meant "no way of getting contribution points," as there's still the option to do some proofing (which anyone can really do).
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beingmused 
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| Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Can I give a few contribution points to Duck? I have no use for the ones I have, since there's no stats image yet. |
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singemfrc
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| IWillKickU wrote: | If people continually delete bands that have legitimate scores posted, it will undermine the accuracy of the leaderboards. The idea is to get as many bands on the leaderboard as possible to accurately depict ranking. If the second best 4 person band gets disbanded, then everyone artificially would move up a place.
EDIT: and no one has "no way of donating." |
See previous posts, OP and I both were referring specifically to bands which had no scores posted.
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beingmused
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| singemfrc wrote: | | See previous posts, OP and I both were referring specifically to bands which had no scores posted. |
No, he was talking about people deleting their scores. |
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IWillKickU
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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You actually CAN delete bands that don't have any scores posted. I did this just a few weeks ago. But once you post (even if the score is deleted) you're stuck with that band forever. See my first post for why this is necessary.
But if you've never posted a score you can disband and get your team slot back. |
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duck
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| IWillKickU wrote: | You actually CAN delete bands that don't have any scores posted. I did this just a few weeks ago. But once you post (even if the score is deleted) you're stuck with that band forever. See my first post for why this is necessary.
But if you've never posted a score you can disband and get your team slot back. |
yeah that's what i meant..i was talking about deleting scores that were already posting and then deleting the band all together. |
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IWillKickU
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| And like I said earlier, if you delete legitimate scores, it artificially raises other bands in the rankings. Just because your band broke up doesn't mean you never achieved that score. You set a mark with that score that others who are below you are aiming to break. The only scores that should be deleted are scores with typos, or scores that are illigitimate. |
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ajanata 
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| duck wrote: | | i dont have a credit card. |
You must be the only person in the world who doesn't get a dozen offers for a credit card every month.
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GuitarGeek08
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ajanata wrote: | | duck wrote: | | i dont have a credit card. |
You must be the only person in the world who doesn't get a dozen offers for a credit card every month. |
I dont get any of those offers...
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Matt276
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: |
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| IWillKickU wrote: | | And like I said earlier, if you delete legitimate scores, it artificially raises other bands in the rankings. Just because your band broke up doesn't mean you never achieved that score. You set a mark with that score that others who are below you are aiming to break. The only scores that should be deleted are scores with typos, or scores that are illigitimate. |
I don't really agree with this. All Scorehero leaderboards are already "artificial" in the sense that scores have been obtained on songs and not entered. There's an implicit understanding that if you're ranked 100th on a song, you might not (and almost definitely don't) have the 100th best score on the song. Scorehero leaderboards are entirely relative, and deleting scores doesn't really affect anything.
By your logic, deciding not to enter a new best score on a song (including any song played in BQP, since you probably haven't even played the song with that band before) is also bad. Sorry, this just doesn't make sense.
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sukergod
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Matt276 wrote: | | IWillKickU wrote: | | And like I said earlier, if you delete legitimate scores, it artificially raises other bands in the rankings. Just because your band broke up doesn't mean you never achieved that score. You set a mark with that score that others who are below you are aiming to break. The only scores that should be deleted are scores with typos, or scores that are illigitimate. |
I don't really agree with this. All Scorehero leaderboards are already "artificial" in the sense that scores have been obtained on songs and not entered. There's an implicit understanding that if you're ranked 100th on a song, you might not (and almost definitely don't) have the 100th best score on the song. Scorehero leaderboards are entirely relative, and deleting scores doesn't really affect anything.
By your logic, deciding not to enter a new best score on a song (including any song played in BQP, since you probably haven't even played the song with that band before) is also bad. Sorry, this just doesn't make sense. |
I also have to agree with Matt on this as well, he brings up a perfectly valid point which I think is very important.
| beingmused wrote: | | Can I give a few contribution points to Duck? I have no use for the ones I have, since there's no stats image yet. |
You're not allowed to give other members points. i forget the actual reason for it but a while ago a member said they would give me a few points (it was like 10 maybe) and they had a bundle so we both figured it was no big deal but they wernt allowed to. It has happened in a special case I know about but that was different, and quite a while ago. Granted you can donate to the site and then give those points to someone else (which is hat they did, god love them). I assume that you can still do that, maybe it was a one time only thing.
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