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LUIGI074
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 209 Location: I'm everywhere. That's what happens when you're a geek XD.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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ghal416 wrote: | MarthAltea wrote: | Okay, I know that I've hit it before, and I know it wasn't the glitch (the pie didn't fill instantaneously), but I'm having trouble hitting the Ow! in a real run. I've got a CRT with the A/V setting at -270, and even when I time it with the snare after the four kicks, I still only get an Okay at best.
Anyone got any tips or maybe a video of them hitting the Ow! on a CRT TV with this method? |
ya this is my same problem as well. i have gotten my highest "okay" using this A/V setting, so I feel that I'm close. however, there are other times where I have usually averaged a weak at best, probably becuase i anticipate the snare. is there a way that i can hear one of the beats beforehand and then utter "ohh"? is that how those of you that have gotten it did so? i also have a CRT and i saw an earlier comment of someone saying that if you have a CRT, the setting should be -270 or -265. is this the case? have others that have CRTs found this setting holding true? |
-265 and -270 are the best for CRTs. Also, I'm not sure if it matters, but have your sensitivity all the way down to the left. I think that can also help out in some cases. Be aware that it needs to be right on the snare since the timing window for the Ow! is only several ms long. _________________
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ghal416
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 150
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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LUIGI074 wrote: | ghal416 wrote: | MarthAltea wrote: | Okay, I know that I've hit it before, and I know it wasn't the glitch (the pie didn't fill instantaneously), but I'm having trouble hitting the Ow! in a real run. I've got a CRT with the A/V setting at -270, and even when I time it with the snare after the four kicks, I still only get an Okay at best.
Anyone got any tips or maybe a video of them hitting the Ow! on a CRT TV with this method? |
ya this is my same problem as well. i have gotten my highest "okay" using this A/V setting, so I feel that I'm close. however, there are other times where I have usually averaged a weak at best, probably becuase i anticipate the snare. is there a way that i can hear one of the beats beforehand and then utter "ohh"? is that how those of you that have gotten it did so? i also have a CRT and i saw an earlier comment of someone saying that if you have a CRT, the setting should be -270 or -265. is this the case? have others that have CRTs found this setting holding true? |
-265 and -270 are the best for CRTs. Also, I'm not sure if it matters, but have your sensitivity all the way down to the left. I think that can also help out in some cases. Be aware that it needs to be right on the snare since the timing window for the Ow! is only several ms long. |
ah okay thanks so much dude. btw, how did you time it? did you start saying "ohh" when the fourth beat happened? _________________
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Gold star every song(58/58; gained on I'm So Sick on 7/13/10)
Get 11 million+ career score(Yes; gained on Learn to Fly on 6/12/08)
FC every song(58/58; gained on Next to You on 7/11/10)
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wesker-kun
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 1045
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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At last!!!
got it after a few tries!
gotta improve it , though
thanks so much to the TRG007 method!!
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BowlZ
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1472 Location: Aurora, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:18 am Post subject: |
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ive tried -275 to -200 with the most success being -240
and by success i mean ive only even got a strong once
can we just go back to when nobody could hit it? i liked that better _________________
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Icemage
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 3200
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:23 am Post subject: |
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I'm noticing a pattern here. Seems like PS3 owners are having a lot more success with this than Xbox 360 owners.
I don't for a moment believe that we're more skilled than our 360 owning comrades, so I wonder if there really is a code-level difference between the two engines? _________________
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Killertomatoes88
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 133 Location: Edison, NJ
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: |
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Icemage wrote: | I'm noticing a pattern here. Seems like PS3 owners are having a lot more success with this than Xbox 360 owners.
I don't for a moment believe that we're more skilled than our 360 owning comrades, so I wonder if there really is a code-level difference between the two engines? |
my thoughts exactly.....kinda like how more 360-ers have GS's on THTF than the ps3-ers.... _________________
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Billtvshow
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 832 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Based off of DLCStats.com, there are very roughly about 5 times as many XBL users downloading DLC than on PS3. If you generalize that to the numbers of users playing on each system, then you could say there are 5 times as many 360 users playing Rock Band. But let's just say for arguments sake that we only assume 2x more XBL users in scorehero, because there's obviously a higher concentration of PS3 players here than normal. Theoretically, if all things are equal with 7 people getting FC's on PS3, there should be about 14 FC's (since this was posted) on XBL. That may even be generous. Even if we assume there are an equal distribution of users and ignore all the other data, wouldn't there be close to a similar amount? Yeah, I think it's safe to say there's a difference between the two systems, at this point, even if trg got it this way on the box. _________________
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Aureate
Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Camrose, Alberta
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:09 am Post subject: |
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BowlZ wrote: | ive tried -275 to -200 with the most success being -240
and by success i mean ive only even got a strong once
can we just go back to when nobody could hit it? i liked that better |
I agree. Two hours at this has been fairly futile. My best has been at -265ms, as a fair few people have mentioned, but I've never got anything close to what I've seen in dogfood's or Icemage's videos. However, I'm not even close to giving up yet. |
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BowlZ
Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1472 Location: Aurora, Ohio
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:26 am Post subject: |
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the best i can say about this, is that i dont get weaks anymore, nothing is ever worse than a high ok, if im going to hit this, it will be this method _________________
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CreapyBEAR95
Joined: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 328 Location: My House DUH
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: |
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i feel sad i nail this everytime in practice mode but cant hit at all in the reall thing but this method is awesome i just wish i could fc the rest of it though i suck on vocals i mostly drum |
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theblue
Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 114 Location: Chicago, Illinois
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: 360 vs. PS3 |
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heres what I think. This method is full of win on every level, but when i try it on a 360 with my lag at -300, my snare isnt even lined up to where the ow is supposed to be hit. I know where the ow is supposed to be because im one of the three people that actually found the "sweet spot" my score just didnt update because i did it offline due connection issues. So im just randomly assuming that there isn't enough lag on the 360 to make the snare line up. Because like Stephen (Billtvshow) said they're twice as many 360 users than PS3. this method is pretty striaght forward, and Im sure someone on a 360 would have figured this out. Or I might be just having a random rant, I DONT KNOW. But so far ive gotten to fill it up 85% with my lag at -275 but i wasnt listening to the snare at all, I just tryied to find the sweet spot. for reference i have a 32' Vizio HDTV 720p plasma screen TV. anyone got any ideas. _________________
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wildbillkickoff
Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 469 Location: Tampa, FL
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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This method is more full of win than the New England Patriots before they got bounced by the G-men.
However, I can score seemingly no higher than a high "OK", my best has been about 88% at -260 (LCD TV with an 8ms response time, with my 360 plugged directly into the 720p HD input). I'm confident I'll accidentally luck into it somehow, but it's still amazingly broken if we have to time it THIS precisely. _________________
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GodzDrinknPal
Joined: 13 Jun 2008 Posts: 242 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Icemage wrote: | My normal settings are +35ms and -15ms on the first and second screens.
Moving it to -265ms on the first screen and leaving the second at -15ms let me hit the Ow three times in six tries (exactly 3/10ths of a second earlier).
I use a Sony 50" SXRD rear projection HDTV. DLP HDTV users can probably use similar settings with success, depending on brand. |
same type of tv here...i hope those settins work _________________
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trg007
Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: South Pasadena, CA
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Billtvshow wrote: | Based off of DLCStats.com, there are very roughly about 5 times as many XBL users downloading DLC than on PS3. If you generalize that to the numbers of users playing on each system, then you could say there are 5 times as many 360 users playing Rock Band. But let's just say for arguments sake that we only assume 2x more XBL users in scorehero, because there's obviously a higher concentration of PS3 players here than normal. Theoretically, if all things are equal with 7 people getting FC's on PS3, there should be about 14 FC's (since this was posted) on XBL. That may even be generous. Even if we assume there are an equal distribution of users and ignore all the other data, wouldn't there be close to a similar amount? Yeah, I think it's safe to say there's a difference between the two systems, at this point, even if trg got it this way on the box. |
I'm thinking there must be a difference between the two consoles because I've only hit it 3 times (2 of which were in practice) out of 40+ attempts using my -150/0 settings and never hit it on any other setting. It seems that on PS3, subtracting anywhere from 260 to 300 from your normal AV setting works best, whereas when I hit it on 360 my AV setting was only 210 less than normal. Either the sweet spot is different on 360, or the timing window is less forgiving, or both.
Since I still have PS3 RB (didn't sell it or anything, just switched over to 360) I think I'll fire up the PS3 this weekend and see if I can hit it with more consistency than I can on 360. |
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ghal416
Joined: 27 Jul 2007 Posts: 150
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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trg007 wrote: | Billtvshow wrote: | Based off of DLCStats.com, there are very roughly about 5 times as many XBL users downloading DLC than on PS3. If you generalize that to the numbers of users playing on each system, then you could say there are 5 times as many 360 users playing Rock Band. But let's just say for arguments sake that we only assume 2x more XBL users in scorehero, because there's obviously a higher concentration of PS3 players here than normal. Theoretically, if all things are equal with 7 people getting FC's on PS3, there should be about 14 FC's (since this was posted) on XBL. That may even be generous. Even if we assume there are an equal distribution of users and ignore all the other data, wouldn't there be close to a similar amount? Yeah, I think it's safe to say there's a difference between the two systems, at this point, even if trg got it this way on the box. |
I'm thinking there must be a difference between the two consoles because I've only hit it 3 times (2 of which were in practice) out of 40+ attempts using my -150/0 settings and never hit it on any other setting. It seems that on PS3, subtracting anywhere from 260 to 300 from your normal AV setting works best, whereas when I hit it on 360 my AV setting was only 210 less than normal. Either the sweet spot is different on 360, or the timing window is less forgiving, or both.
Since I still have PS3 RB (didn't sell it or anything, just switched over to 360) I think I'll fire up the PS3 this weekend and see if I can hit it with more consistency than I can on 360. |
what type of TV do you use trg? But ya, I've tried the -265 or -270 range that others have mentioned as working on CRTs (they were on PS3), but the best I have been able to get is a high "Okay"(had 113,120 points at the end of the Ow). _________________
VOX Goals:
RB1:
Gold star every song(58/58; gained on I'm So Sick on 7/13/10)
Get 11 million+ career score(Yes; gained on Learn to Fly on 6/12/08)
FC every song(58/58; gained on Next to You on 7/11/10)
RB2:
Gold star every song(78/84)
Get 17 million+ career score(Not yet; have crossed the 15 million mark as of 8/4/10)
FC every song(78/84) |
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