How to hit the "Ow" in Next to You! [Updated 8/18]

**HoboBobulus** · Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 495

well, so far tonight I got maybe half a dozen strongs at 90-95% on the phrase, and several OK's that bordered on strong, yet no awesome. But, there's always tomorrow

**trg007** · Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: South Pasadena, CA

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**BowlZ** · Joined: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 1472 Location: Aurora, Ohio

to those of you hitting it...

telling me your final calibration doesnt help me,

how much are you changing it by is the real question, what is it normal offset you have then what do you change it to
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**Icemage** · Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 3200

My normal settings are +35ms and -15ms on the first and second screens.

Moving it to -265ms on the first screen and leaving the second at -15ms let me hit the Ow three times in six tries (exactly 3/10ths of a second earlier).

I use a Sony 50" SXRD rear projection HDTV. DLP HDTV users can probably use similar settings with success, depending on brand.
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**dogfoodnyc** · Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 1218 Location: New Hyde Park, NY

I figure I'll share a bit more detailed description of my run in with this: (I replied to bowlz with this)

I was originally on +40/+40 setting (if you do auto calibration at Rear-projection they will give you a/v sync at +40)

I am using a Philip (Not Toshiba.. sorry ><) Rear-projection HD/DLP TV

I am using the HDMI cable when I played.

Also, I never actually consider changing the LAG OFFSET (the 2nd number when you do calibration) b/c apparently I thought that is simply for drums/bass/guitar and the a/v is for vocals.

I had NO luck hitting anything in real run for about 2 hours and I was so fed up that I didn't want to sing the lyrics so I went to practice mode at about -225 (I started at -150). Then at -265 (seriously as my last try) I hit it in practice mode. I went back to the real run and couldn't do it for about 10 time straight.

I left home to do some errands and came back telling stephen how stupid that was in practice mode. I then try about another 30 mins on real run with -265 and at time I got the "anti-glitch" where I know I made sound in a range where the pie would at least fill abut it just won't move at all. I got that for about 5 to 7 times. Then I got pissed so I went back out to practice mode just to see if this thing was broken only in Real game play.

I was going to film it for the sake of it so I can prove that it was hit even it was in practice mode. I got it on my first time. Then I said let me try again in real game play. And Bang, I hit it. Then I was able to Re-FC it for like 5 times in a roll until my cam's space ran out.

As for why I am using practice mode? B/C I got so tired singing it over (I've done this just like everyone on at least 6 to 7 sessions of 12 hour run back in May, June, and July). And hitting it in Practice mode on -265 but getting the "anti-glitch" for the first time in playing this song EVER, and then getting the repeated for 5 more times really made me think if us PS3 players were screwed on this OW.

However, once I hit it again in practice mode I think I've "Open the flood gate" so to speak. Ow was all of a sudden very easy to hit.

Good luck guys hopefully this helps.

original setting - +40/+40
final setting - -265/+40
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**HrdCore1337v2** · Joined: 04 Jul 2008 Posts: 118 Location: San Benito, TX

me, billtvshow, and vixenita have all tried to hit it but maybe its that i cant get the calibration for an LCD or the Xbox 360s ow! has a twist to it...
trg did say he got it on a -150 calibration but i dont believethe game console affect calibration or picture other than definition or quality
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**trg007** · Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Posts: 39 Location: South Pasadena, CA

Here's a list of what the preset calibration settings are numerically, according to this:

360
AV Lag
-35 -20 CRT
-55 -10 PLASMA
-35 -20 LCD
-35 -40 Rear Projection
-80 -70 DLP

PS3
AV Lag
-35 5 CRT
-95 -20 PLASMA
-85 15 LCD
-35 -15 Rear Projection
-85 -55 DLP

So for the PS3 folks with CRTs that changed it to -265/0, that's a -230/-5 adjustment if they normally use the default CRT TV preset. I'll have to try playing with my settings some more when I get home from work tonight, since my lack of success last night leads me to believe my -150/0 isn't exactly the sweet spot for my TV.

I have the same type of TV as Icemage (60" Sony SXRD) but I also use an AV receiver (Onkyo TX-SR605) that could be affecting the lag as well. My 360 is hooked up to the receiver via component & optical cables and then HDMI from the receiver to the TV.

**YODAvSIDIOUS** · Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 3320

Can you tell me what the count of the Ow is supposed to be? I don't know what pattern you're talking about.
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