Legality of an OD path regarding FP/LT

**internetguy87** · Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 3505 Location: Pittsburgh, PA

As for the FC remark. We all know that on drums FC streaks can be extremely different. Thus, if the average person like me, who gets like 1-1.5k of squeezes a song, but not fully optimal, gets this glitch, since it is still a 100%, how could you know that it wasn't a FC. My note streak would be the same as a FC with no squeezing since I could make up for those 4 notes with a squeeze or two, and I would have picture evidence that I got a 100% with the same streak as the non-squeeze FC.

Yes for FP/LT since we now know about it, it would be easy to detect. But what happens if there are a lot of songs like this, since we already know about 2 now, starts getting pretty tough to call it illegal, since it would be so impossible to prove?

Thus I feel like we basically need to keep it legal, since it involves nothing wrong on the players part, afterall who says missing is cheating. If it were a insane drum roll youd miss on to get it instead of 3 easy notes at the start, people would get it constantly and everyone would be confused. Also, by keeping it legal people could keep their sanity, and not have to check every possible time something like this may ever possibly appear.
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**ERBiC** · Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 74

This is intriguing. Might be something to check out if I can ever get the FPLT intro down.

**rkuo** · Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 152

I think it might as well be made legal. First of all, this seems to require that a fill and OD phrase end at the same time, and that the squeeze have two or more notes. That's already extremely rare in songs. The path would also need to score higher than alternate paths. Second, it's in the game and anyone can duplicate it consistently if they want to. Third, the increase in score from the path isn't ridiculous...it's just some extra OD.

**duka08** · Joined: 31 Mar 2008 Posts: 641

**Constable** · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject:

Thanks for all the input everyone. I wasn't terribly concerned with the FC aspect (moreso concerned with that OD phrase giving you extra OD), but internetguy87 covered the FC matter thoroughly! The only other time where you'd want to intentionally miss an OD phrase would be in FB - Dani California. I forgot the FB path, but it synchronized ODs to coincide with the rest of your band.

The glitch is definitely repeatable and not terribly hard if you can squeeze correctly. So the songs that potentially have this glitch are (as far as I know):

Interstate Love Song
FP/LT
WGFA (I don't think it's even worth doing; at chorus_3b, M.187)

Seven doesn't have a fill that covers up the last note of an OD phrase

Well, I'll make a full video of FP/LT in the future with this alternate.. weird path. The rest of LT is basically the same as if you played the song through the path 0 0 0 0, etc.

**POPRICH** · Joined: 11 Apr 2008 Posts: 55 Location: Margaritaville

Look at Someguy913's score of FP/LT it's 336k hmmm, I wonder if he knew about this and kept it to himself.......

**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9658 Location: Meridian, ID

Can you overhit after the first blue+bass (the absolute first notes of the song)? That would mean you break combo, and then start for real on the second. Or is there some reason that the overhit after the second note+bass pair is more optimal?
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**Constable** · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:16 am Post subject:

**inv4der** · Joined: 16 Sep 2007 Posts: 9658 Location: Meridian, ID

**Constable** · Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject:

Well, it's three note pairs: bass+blue, bass+blue, bass+green, but the bass+green is the only part of the OD phrase, a 2 note OD phrase. I'm just saying that for this particular situation, it has to be between the 2nd and 3rd pair (bass+blue and bass+green) to deactivate that OD phrase. It won't turn the 3rd pair back to white by over-hitting in between bass+blue, bass+blue (least that's what I assumed.)

**singemfrc** · Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 4407 Location: California

Wow. When I stumbled on the Interstate Love Song glitch I immediately went through every chart looking for paths that cross and found none (except a number of songs where it was so early youd never activate there) but I missed this one - I didn't see it because the OD phrase is a single note.
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