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Harmonix has really gone downhill, haven't they?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:37 am    Post subject: Harmonix has really gone downhill, haven't they? Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXqmYHuRW_M
The outro to Slow Ride by Foghat released only two months ago is a joke. Sure, Harmonix is no stranger to stilted song editing (check out Tom Sawyer for example) but this seems incredibly amateurish and sloppy to say the least, not to mention entirely pointless. At least shortening I Will Possess Your Heart by 3 minutes only removed redundant bits, but this is cutting out an iconic part of the song, much like when GH:VH removed the drum intro from Painkiller. And it's borderline false advertisement when your songs don't have previews for the charts readily available. I remember back in the day Harmonix was getting refund requests just for censoring "goddamn" out of This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race, now they're actually chopping up songs altogether and selling them as official. Not to mention, the censorship has gotten worse and the charting has gotten sloppy. Goddamn is cut out once in Stop! and several times throughout Redneck (which completely ruins the song, by the way) but is left uncensored entirely in God Damn. Stop!'s lyrics are wrong, for example, and that's not even mentioning the title missing the exclamation point if I'm going to nitpick, which I am.

Bring back 2010 Rock Band. Nothing Harmonix has been doing since announcing Rock Band 4 has been even acceptable. Stop's lyrics are wrong, for example. "Hum along with me. Hum along with the tv." And it should be Stop! if I'm going to nitpick, which I am. Rock Band 4 and Harmonix in general has been a failure after the critical darling that was Rock Band 3, and the layoffs of over 30 people sure took a toll on creative vision and integrity of this long-running franchise. If Rock Band 4 is the last hurrah in the RB series, then Rock Band's legacy, and Harmonix's by extension, is dead.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ No.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because its not like HMX never removed iconic parts of song in the RB3 era *cough*BlackMagicWoman*cough*
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The single version of Slow Ride is just under four minutes, but yeah this is definitely HMX's fault.

The censored radio version of This Ain't A Scene removes the "goddamns" but yes, that was HMX's fault.

Santana's version of Black Magic Woman is followed up as a medley with a second song, Gypsy Queen, itself an entirely separate song which would likely need to be licensed separately from BMW. But it's HMX's fault.

Maybe someone someday will understand that almost every questionable thing about versions of songs in Rock Band are outside of HMX's control, whether it be things they can't licence, thereby requiring it not be included (Gypsy Queen and various samples in the Chinese Democracy album) or the stems provided already being censored (This Ain't A Scene, likely the case with Redneck as well since "goddamn" is not the only obscenity in the song).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add to this, they are probably more lenient when it comes to DLC, as it does not attribute to the ESRB rating of the game.

Also, they have been making questionable decisions in charting since RB1, for all instruments.

    Broken notes (and notes that are so close together that you can't tell they are separate)
    Missing snares
    Missing sections (Bat Country missing a guitar section, for example)
    Strange censorship (she goes down on you in a theater is censored in You Oughta Know, but the song She Goes Down is fine in it's entirety)


and other things for a very very long time. Nothing new. And it really isn't that large of a problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like, the Slow Ride thing isn't even Harmonix's top 20 worst charting decisions. It's fine, honestly. They still have an extremely consistent record across hundreds and hundreds of songs.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There were some very questionable charting/mixing decisions in the Jimi Hendrix songs. "Foxey Lady" in particular was a bit of a "wtf?" moment. On the whole, I thought this is something neversoft was always a bit better at. But in terms of PR (up until they made everybody redundant), engine & general quality of the game, HMX have usually done a better job IMO.
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