Voxtar Technique, with *VIDEO GUIDES* by sentimentalgeek!

**voidedalive2x** · Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:29 pm Post subject:

idk if its been said (and im not an expert on voxtar either) but wouldnt it be good to practice speaking while playing JUST the guitar track, with no vocal line at all?

also, wouldnt just practicing the vocals till you can say them well, be alot easier? I know it might contradict my earlier statement, but that way you only have to look at one track 90-99% of the time, rather than 70%? (i cant say 100% because you are bound to mess up sometime by doing this).
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**nillacocajola** · Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 654 Location: Kentucky

I <3 this guide so much.

I've yet to see anyone mention this, but... If you're using a grounded mic stand of any kind and you're a high sensitivity Vocals player (I use max sensitivity most of the time so I won't have to 'lean in' to the microphone), you can tap your foot on the mic stand to hit taps.

Since I'm playing with a metal mic stand on a hardwood floor and usually wear shoes, this works rather well - you don't have to deal with the possibility of your controller slipping out from under your feet or the likelihood of passing out from shortness of breath.

While this situation may seem a bit particular, I have tested this with metal and plastic mic stands, as well as on hardwood and carpeted floors. If you don't wear shoes while playing, however, it does become a bit more troublesome. Anyway, it's worth a shot.

Also, are there any videos for explaining voxtar squeezing? It took me a long time to catch on, so I thought it might be helpful for someone to make a video explaining the process. I wouldn't mind doing one myself, but if there's all ready material out there for it or if someone more familiar with it than myself were to make a video, that'd be awesome too.

And thank you again, socialskills and sentimentalgeek, for your hard work on this. Without the two of you, I have a feeling we would have at least a few more hopeless, would-be voxtarists out there dedicating their life to one instrument. You have SAVED multi-tasking.

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**sentimentalgeek** · Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 1075 Location: Seattle, WA

Wow, thanks for the overwhelmingly appreciative post! Honestly socialskills did all the work - I just made a couple videos and they happened to fit with what he was looking for, so he linked to them.

But it's so nice to know that other people find the guide helpful!

**socialskills** · Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 589

**voidedalive2x** · Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:37 pm Post subject:

**lilo95** · Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 662 Location: Manchester UK

I'm finding Voxtar incredibly difficult. But On the songs I know its easy as cake!! I just concentrate on the guitar and sing along!! (I sometimes do that anyway!!) All I have to do now is make sure I'm not flat!
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**jkl890** · Joined: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 1

First, my apologies for the zombie resurrection. This thread's just so cool for cats that I just had to post. Thank you.

Second, this guide rocks my figurative socks, and then some. I (jokingly) tried voxtar on RB2 last week and it just kills me to see my GHWT Band career sitting at 0%. Besides, it'll breathe a bit o' life into things (since I can't afford to buy a drum controller for the next three millenia).

Anyway. My thanks once again. :-)

**socialskills** · Joined: 26 Jun 2007 Posts: 589

**ES942** · Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 3445 Location: Snalbans

I know I'm a little overdue on this, but this guide has helped me a lot and I wanted to throw in a couple trends that I noticed trying to revitalize my old "skills" for this.

The trend for my vocal stylings while I'm playing guitar is not so much trouble with pitch, but trouble with holding notes as long as I should be. I'm one who focuses almost solely on the guitar part while spending time memorizing the vocal track. You have to be keen on the differences between the recording and the vocal chart, because as wonderful a job Harmonix has done, they haven't charted EVERY single embellishment in the vocal line. In other words, you might sing a scoop into a note or cut it off a little too early because the singer does that, but the chart doesn't. Coupled with the fact that concentrating on guitar causes us to overlook these details a little more easily. These can (and are, especially for me) be the difference between an awesome phrase and a strong phrase.

As another tip, it's much easier to learn songs by listening rather than drilling them over and over again. This is much like what I did with Henrietta voxtar. I must've played it 30 times trying to get an FC way back when, but it wasn't until I watched a video of the chart that I could nuance my voice to hit the bridge.