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Hobo111
Joined: 27 Dec 2009 Posts: 3414
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: |
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TensionSpree wrote: | Where's the proof of the FC? He beat his own score with a -1 (I assume) and no one is saying there's pictures of the stats screen when he bootlegged. | Here you go. |
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redskinsrock2689
Joined: 10 Nov 2008 Posts: 298
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Here we are, the first of three Rush songs left un-FCd. |
In the description of working man. I know I'm being incredibly picky, and it doesnt matter at all, but yeah, only 2 songs left. _________________
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DarthFizz
Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 996 Location: Georgia. (Iceland if you wish.)
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:06 am Post subject: |
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All songs (including Slipknot) have been FC'ed on expert drums except for the 6 un-FC'ed listed.
Also, on the Rock Band xbox360 leaderboards, someone has gotten a 100% on the Working Man cover. I doubt people will believe it to be an FC, but just throwing out that this is the first ever 100% on this song and it has been out for about 3 and a half years. _________________
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iHomer
Joined: 10 Feb 2008 Posts: 935 Location: Vaughan, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: |
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DarthFizz wrote: | Also, on the Rock Band xbox360 leaderboards, someone has gotten a 100% on the Working Man cover. I doubt people will believe it to be an FC, but just throwing out that this is the first ever 100% on this song and it has been out for about 3 and a half years. |
This was discussed a while back, they used the pausing method (hit one note, pause, hit another note, pause, etc.) before the game was patched. This was done by multiple people, none of which counted. _________________
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DarthFizz
Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 996 Location: Georgia. (Iceland if you wish.)
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 1:01 am Post subject: |
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iHomer wrote: | DarthFizz wrote: | Also, on the Rock Band xbox360 leaderboards, someone has gotten a 100% on the Working Man cover. I doubt people will believe it to be an FC, but just throwing out that this is the first ever 100% on this song and it has been out for about 3 and a half years. |
This was discussed a while back, they used the pausing method (hit one note, pause, hit another note, pause, etc.) before the game was patched. This was done by multiple people, none of which counted. |
Oh ok. Didn't know that. Sorry for bringing it up. _________________
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TensionSpree
Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 566
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Do we have proof each person who has 100%'d it did so pre-patch? _________________
"But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood."
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GregoryZero
Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 2338 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:01 am Post subject: |
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TensionSpree wrote: | Do we have proof each person who has 100%'d it did so pre-patch? |
I have to ask, why in the world would we need to have that information? _________________
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TensionSpree
Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 566
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Because there's always the possibility that one/few were done legitimately but not by SH members.
Unless anyone here pops in saying "dude i totally remember seeing those scores pre-patch". I'm aware of the one that became famous, but someone said there were several. _________________
"But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood."
"Belief in reputation is, perhaps, the most worthless of all beliefs."
Recent FCs: Man In The Box (Guitar)
Will not remove this in my signature until "Unholy Confessions" by Avenged Sevenfold is added to Rock Band DLC.
Started: July 31st, 2010
Still don't wanna remove it! Happy it's here, though! |
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blingdomepiece
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 4358 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 4:47 am Post subject: |
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TensionSpree wrote: | Do we have proof each person who has 100%'d it did so pre-patch? |
You have it backwards. For an extremely difficult FC, the burden of proof is on the person claiming to have it. I don't know if you are trolling but I would have thought this was common sense. _________________
Expert Pro Keys: 50/63 GS, most recent The Killing Moon
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TQSG
Joined: 30 Jul 2008 Posts: 1054 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:28 am Post subject: |
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blingdomepiece wrote: | I don't know if you are trolling. |
Protip, he always is. _________________
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TensionSpree
Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 566
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:35 am Post subject: |
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blingdomepiece wrote: | TensionSpree wrote: | Do we have proof each person who has 100%'d it did so pre-patch? |
You have it backwards. For an extremely difficult FC, the burden of proof is on the person claiming to have it. I don't know if you are trolling but I would have thought this was common sense. | It's... if I recall, 50 notes total the speedup section. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Post-patch you are allowed 7 pauses. We'll assume it's 50 notes. So you hit... around 8 notes per pause. Do you know how hard it'd be to try doing that? Hit 8 notes, pause and repeat? It's a LOT harder to pause on drums than it is guitar. I think it's easier to try FCing the roll than pausing in it post-patch.
All I am saying is, it's PROBABLY legit if done post-patch because of how hard and tedious it'd be to even try it. If the scores were there pre-patch, then disregard it. _________________
"But I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood."
"Belief in reputation is, perhaps, the most worthless of all beliefs."
Recent FCs: Man In The Box (Guitar)
Will not remove this in my signature until "Unholy Confessions" by Avenged Sevenfold is added to Rock Band DLC.
Started: July 31st, 2010
Still don't wanna remove it! Happy it's here, though! |
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GregoryZero
Joined: 04 Jan 2008 Posts: 2338 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: |
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TensionSpree wrote: | It's... if I recall, 50 notes total the speedup section. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Post-patch you are allowed 7 pauses. We'll assume it's 50 notes. So you hit... around 8 notes per pause. Do you know how hard it'd be to try doing that? Hit 8 notes, pause and repeat? It's a LOT harder to pause on drums than it is guitar. I think it's easier to try FCing the roll than pausing in it post-patch.
All I am saying is, it's PROBABLY legit if done post-patch because of how hard and tedious it'd be to even try it. If the scores were there pre-patch, then disregard it. |
BDP's point still stands, however. It's up to the person that did it to provide the proof. I'm going to go ahead and guess that there's probably like five logical fallacies in what you just said. _________________
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LethalFishEater
Joined: 21 May 2008 Posts: 2000 Location: I have less posts than bjw, who cares where I am.
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:40 am Post subject: |
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TensionSpree wrote: | blingdomepiece wrote: | TensionSpree wrote: | Do we have proof each person who has 100%'d it did so pre-patch? |
You have it backwards. For an extremely difficult FC, the burden of proof is on the person claiming to have it. I don't know if you are trolling but I would have thought this was common sense. | It's... if I recall, 50 notes total the speedup section. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Post-patch you are allowed 7 pauses. We'll assume it's 50 notes. So you hit... around 8 notes per pause. Do you know how hard it'd be to try doing that? Hit 8 notes, pause and repeat? It's a LOT harder to pause on drums than it is guitar. I think it's easier to try FCing the roll than pausing in it post-patch.
All I am saying is, it's PROBABLY legit if done post-patch because of how hard and tedious it'd be to even try it. If the scores were there pre-patch, then disregard it. | The lifts the burden of proof off of the people who got the 100% how...? Also, BDP, TensionSpree is always trolling. Always. _________________
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TQSG
Joined: 30 Jul 2008 Posts: 1054 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:41 am Post subject: |
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<inv4der> him saying that doesn't invalidate BDP's assertion about burden of proof
also what greg and fish said _________________
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blingdomepiece
Joined: 03 Aug 2007 Posts: 4358 Location: Ottawa ON Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:44 am Post subject: |
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TensionSpree wrote: | All I am saying is, it's PROBABLY legit if done post-patch because of how hard and tedious it'd be to even try it. If the scores were there pre-patch, then disregard it. |
On the official leaderboard, there is only one 100% score, from ZMaster91, who previously came to this topic and told us explicitly that he got it with the pause trick pre-patch.
While I have no reason to dispute iHomer saying that other people did it, there are no other scores on the leaderboard reflecting it having been done. Maybe those people had the judgment to not save their progress if they were just having a laugh. But until there's another 100% score this is all old ground and it's a settled issue. _________________
Expert Pro Keys: 50/63 GS, most recent The Killing Moon
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