Hardest full-band pass?

**Yewb** · Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 3020 Location: Plymouth, UK

With the release of Guns of Summer, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's probably the hardest full-band pass excluding RBN, partly because the only easy instrument is bass. Even vocals are tough as nails on GoS, and obviously drums and guitar are famously difficult.

If your calibration is off on Guns of Summer guitar, by the way, you will miss a lot of notes. Like, a lot. I'm sure you all know this, but it's worth pointing out.
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**Geekthras** · Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Posts: 239 Location: Lincoln, MA

Well, we just passed WAHNTHAC on our second try, drums + vox (I can get as far as the first blasts occasionally). So that's probably not actually the hardest full band pass, considering the guitar and bass both make it easier.
I failed in the double kick part, then the vocalist (almostsix) saved me as soon as he could, then I survived until the fast kick beat started, at which point I was fine without any help until the solo, at which point I failed out really quickly. Then he saved me at the very end of the guitar solo, so we were fine.

So, with a fairly good drummer and a vocalist who isn't a mute, you can pass it without a *great* run. I voted WAHNTHAC earlier, but I'm changing that vote to Guns of Summer. There's only two sets of blasts, so as long as the drummer only fails in or right before the blasts, you are fine.

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**soccerman034** · Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 65

Packet Flier (Crazy guitar, Crazy Drums)
If 6 Was 9 (Hardest drum solo in the game, hard vocals)
DQfP (Hardest guitar song in Rockband....TRUTH)
The Great Southern Trendkill (Still unfc'd on guitar, drums are nasty)
Mordecai (Some tough parts on guitar, and Embedded like on drums_

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**NfskMjmMal2** · Joined: 27 Aug 2008 Posts: 1000

I actually think Death Quota is not that hard of a full band pass, assuming your guitarist and bassist are somewhat decent. I had a breakdown of the whole song, then it got deleted. I can elaborate again, if people would like, but overall, I don't think it's nearly as hard as people make it out to be.

My vote goes to We Are the Nightmare. The first "easy" unison is a couple minutes in. That drum intro is insane, and guitar isn't easy either.

Guns of Summer is very difficult due to the intro. If a band can make it to the first chorus then they should be fine (due to an easy unison), but getting past the intro on Guitar, Drums, and Vocals with only Bass to help save people is very difficult.
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**soccerman034** · Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 65

What would you see if most comparable to the long and constant sweeps in Guns of Summer for guitar? There is a part in Mordecai that is similar, but is obviously much shorter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld5yed3tcig

0:43-0:57

I might be the only one, but I think that Mordecai is a highly underrated song in terms of difficulty. The drums are up there with the hardest in game, and both the guitar/bass are fairly difficult (and fun to play). The Vocals are only a 3, but there are some tough parts, especially after the singer stops screaming

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**Geekthras** · Joined: 19 Jun 2009 Posts: 239 Location: Lincoln, MA

**soccerman034** · Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 65

Strictly as a guitarist, I don't think Guns of Summer is that difficult: The sweeps take some muscle memory, but once you have that down, the song is cake.

In terms of guitar, if we are indeed counting the RBN DLC, here is my top 5 in terms of overall difficulty:

1.) Caprici Di Diablo (The single most demanding guitar song in the game in terms of muscle memory and stamina. No real strumming problems, but (at least for me) crazy fast fingering is much harder).

2.) Satch Boogie (Right up there with CDD in terms of finger dexterity needed...Brutal solo)

3.) Death Quota for Purification (Not much to say here....The last song on the RBN I have yet to beat)

4.) Packet Flier (The intro is crazy......REALLY fast sweeps that lead into an annoying strumming section).

5.) Thrasher (I have broken FAR too many strummer's on this song)
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**ilblud91** · Joined: 28 Jul 2008 Posts: 160

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**ilblud91** · Joined: 28 Jul 2008 Posts: 160

Wanted to bump this topic, considering new stuff like Dragonforce, Dying Fetus, and Headed for the Ditch (can't remember if this was out back then or not) have really given us some nightmarish full-band experiences.

Operation Ground and Pound is definitely the hardest guitar pass, but Your Treachery Will Die With You is insane all around, sans vocals.