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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Centerfold is actually 0-1-0-0 and gives 134,075
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lasso: 1-2(si)-0-0-0 (149,275)
Smoke On The Water: 0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0 (351,675)
Everybody Wants To Rule The World (Cal. Path, BNS -300ms): 0-0-0-0-0-0-0(E) (235,275)

And thanks to PD527, Viva La Resistance should have an optimal score of 202,875 when using the posted path.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the1and0nly1 wrote:
Lasso: 1-2(si)-0-0-0 (149,275)


Thanks for these. One thing that occurred to me. Do we know if drum solo bonuses are the same for regular vs. pro, or if the pro ones are 20% more? If the pro solo bonuses aren't 20% more, then any song with a drum solo won't have an "auto-calculated" pro optimal of 1.2 times the regular optimal.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blingdomepiece wrote:
the1and0nly1 wrote:
Lasso: 1-2(si)-0-0-0 (149,275)


Thanks for these. One thing that occurred to me. Do we know if drum solo bonuses are the same for regular vs. pro, or if the pro ones are 20% more? If the pro solo bonuses aren't 20% more, then any song with a drum solo won't have an "auto-calculated" pro optimal of 1.2 times the regular optimal.


And also, if the Pro solos don't give 20% more, wouldn't the gold cutoff be more difficult to get? Or would they take that into account? All I know, is that there are still some 1 note discrepencies in the blank charts regarding solos, so be wary of that if you're looking at the charts.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the1and0nly1 wrote:
blingdomepiece wrote:
the1and0nly1 wrote:
Lasso: 1-2(si)-0-0-0 (149,275)


Thanks for these. One thing that occurred to me. Do we know if drum solo bonuses are the same for regular vs. pro, or if the pro ones are 20% more? If the pro solo bonuses aren't 20% more, then any song with a drum solo won't have an "auto-calculated" pro optimal of 1.2 times the regular optimal.


And also, if the Pro solos don't give 20% more, wouldn't the gold cutoff be more difficult to get? Or would they take that into account? All I know, is that there are still some 1 note discrepencies in the blank charts regarding solos, so be wary of that if you're looking at the charts.


I haven't had a chance to analyze things really, but I get the impression that gold star cutoffs (and presumably other star cutoffs) are calculated completely differently now from how they used to be, and that things like notes with very few notes and songs with solos and such are automatically accounted for in the new calculation method.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blingdomepiece wrote:
Last Dance: All immediate (cweaver)

Holding 1 at the beginning gets you 600 more points. Not saying that 1-(however many 0's are after) gets you optimal, it very well could, but it gets you more than all immediate. It gets you 161,075/193,290..?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PD527 wrote:
blingdomepiece wrote:
Last Dance: All immediate (cweaver)

Holding 1 at the beginning gets you 600 more points. Not saying that 1-(however many 0's are after) gets you optimal, it very well could, but it gets you more than all immediate. It gets you 161,075/193,290..?


If it's better than what's currently there, I'll post it. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blingdomepiece wrote:
PD527 wrote:
blingdomepiece wrote:
Last Dance: All immediate (cweaver)

Holding 1 at the beginning gets you 600 more points. Not saying that 1-(however many 0's are after) gets you optimal, it very well could, but it gets you more than all immediate. It gets you 161,075/193,290..?


If it's better than what's currently there, I'll post it. Thanks!


I just checked other possible paths for it, and PD's looks like the best one.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

still waiting for an optimal path for caught in a mosh. Anyone know it?

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gladiators16 wrote:
EDIT: 0-1-1-0-0 on Crazy Train got me first place, I'm pretty sure this beats out 0-1-0-0-0

I think 0-1-1-1-0 may be better, or 0-1-0-1-0 (Don't know if this would be the path, haven't tested it)

0-1-1-1-0 may be optimal, have yet to FC with this path (choked 10 seconds from the end)

I'll try 0-1-0-1-0 after, and I'll let you guys know the optimal of the 2, and scores.

EDIT2: think this may be optimal for caught in a mosh. I messed up 4 times and still got 1st place

1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1/L-0
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pd has 221775 on Walk of life, a new path?
Could someone post it? Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JasonflyXIII wrote:
Pd has 221775 on Walk of life, a new path?
Could someone post it? Thanks

blingdomepiece wrote:
Walk Of Life (Cal. Path Standard +300ms): 0(SqIn) - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 (221775/266130) (the1and0nly1)

DavidMarion about Crazy Train Path wrote:
0-1-1-1-0 may be optimal, have yet to FC with this path (choked 10 seconds from the end)

I FCed with 0-1-1-1-0 and got the same score as gladiators so i believe it was just a mistake on gladiators part putting only 2 1's instead of 3 seeing as he got what seems to be optimal

On another note i'm pretty sure Living In America is not all immediate but 0-0-0-0-0-1 with 186,875 optimal
Misery Business 1-0-1-0-1-1 (186,575)
Me Enamora 2-(Rest All Immediate) (130,975)
I'm not really a pather so these could be terribly wrong, we'd need someone like the1and0nly1 to confirm
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops, had BNS on >.>
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PD527 wrote:
I FCed with 0-1-1-1-0 and got the same score as gladiators so i believe it was just a mistake on gladiators part putting only 2 1's instead of 3 seeing as he got what seems to be optimal
No I meant to put two 1s not three, maybe my path gives less but I got a few double squeezes or something
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PD527 wrote:
JasonflyXIII wrote:
Pd has 221775 on Walk of life, a new path?
Could someone post it? Thanks

blingdomepiece wrote:
Walk Of Life (Cal. Path Standard +300ms): 0(SqIn) - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 (221775/266130) (the1and0nly1)

DavidMarion about Crazy Train Path wrote:
0-1-1-1-0 may be optimal, have yet to FC with this path (choked 10 seconds from the end)

I FCed with 0-1-1-1-0 and got the same score as gladiators so i believe it was just a mistake on gladiators part putting only 2 1's instead of 3 seeing as he got what seems to be optimal

On another note i'm pretty sure Living In America is not all immediate but 0-0-0-0-0-1 with 186,875 optimal
Misery Business 1-0-1-0-1-1 (186,575)
Me Enamora 2-(Rest All Immediate) (130,975)
I'm not really a pather so these could be terribly wrong, we'd need someone like the1and0nly1 to confirm


Crazy Train should definitely be 0-1-1-1-0. The rest are good.

EDIT: Living In America's chart is interesting. I'll have to take a look at it again some other time. It's one of the rare charts in which the unison bonus is due to a bass/drum combo, not a guitar/drum combo.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone got 99,175 on I Love Rock n Roll, 100 points above optimal O_o
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