Rockband Editing / Customisation

[LocalH]

Best way to read through the dtb files is actually to go to the uncompiled dta files in the parent folder. Plaintext format, with comments even!

For example, for the songs you listed:

[LocalH]

Best way to read through the dtb files is actually to go to the uncompiled dta files in the parent folder. Plaintext format, with comments even!

For example, for the songs you listed:

[pksage]

[pksage]

[Snaki]

noobie question here but... how do i get the ark files from my Rock band on Xbox360?

[Snaki]

noobie question here but... how do i get the ark files from my Rock band on Xbox360?

[kevnin]

google's your friend for that one...
you either need special hardware, a disassembled drive, or the actual dvd rom from your 360. i don't know the details but it's not the most straight forward process if you've never done it.

[kevnin]

google's your friend for that one...
you either need special hardware, a disassembled drive, or the actual dvd rom from your 360. i don't know the details but it's not the most straight forward process if you've never done it.

[GameZelda]

Well I have good news for all PS2 users... I've made a tool that patches the private streams (where the VGS files are stored) with another VGS file, and it worked!

I'm not totally sure about the limitations of the method. The first and most obvious is the file size (the size of the new VGS should be smaller).

To make the VGS, I used Rocklib, with the same number of channels and sampling rate that the original, and adding the key (the same that the original file) in the end (not sure if I even need that).
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(Ok, I failed to do it in 24 hours... ).

GH:WT-PS2 Customization Progress
[100%] Make it work (w/songs loading) in a DVD5 (thanks psychospacefish!)
[100%] Modify audio (Finally done 25/11/2008)
[100%] Modify charts (Done 26/11/2008! Customs finally )

[GameZelda]

Well I have good news for all PS2 users... I've made a tool that patches the private streams (where the VGS files are stored) with another VGS file, and it worked!

I'm not totally sure about the limitations of the method. The first and most obvious is the file size (the size of the new VGS should be smaller).

To make the VGS, I used Rocklib, with the same number of channels and sampling rate that the original, and adding the key (the same that the original file) in the end (not sure if I even need that).
_________________

(Ok, I failed to do it in 24 hours... ).

GH:WT-PS2 Customization Progress
[100%] Make it work (w/songs loading) in a DVD5 (thanks psychospacefish!)
[100%] Modify audio (Finally done 25/11/2008)
[100%] Modify charts (Done 26/11/2008! Customs finally )

[kevnin]

gz:

have you figured out if all of the tracks even have "band" tracks?
if they don't, do you put the custom audio over vocals so that it always plays (assuming you set the vocal track audio to play in options)?

i didn't see anything in the dtbs about band channels... it would be useful to examine a vgs stream's individual channels and its accompanying entry in songs.dtb to see if there are just two extra channels at the end, or whatever.



edit: also, wouldn't another possible limitation be that we can't add songs that are longer than current ones, regardless of actual file size (because we're using those video streams...)

[kevnin]

gz:

have you figured out if all of the tracks even have "band" tracks?
if they don't, do you put the custom audio over vocals so that it always plays (assuming you set the vocal track audio to play in options)?

i didn't see anything in the dtbs about band channels... it would be useful to examine a vgs stream's individual channels and its accompanying entry in songs.dtb to see if there are just two extra channels at the end, or whatever.



edit: also, wouldn't another possible limitation be that we can't add songs that are longer than current ones, regardless of actual file size (because we're using those video streams...)

[GameZelda]

[GameZelda]

[kevnin]

the first two channels are almost certainly drum channels, unless there are two band tracks before the instrument channels begin

songs.dtb references AT LEAST channels 0 and 1 for drum tracks, and many (if not most) reference 0-3 for drum tracks.

if you put audio in only tracks 0 and 1, and play the drums, see what happens when you miss notes.

if you play only guitar, then clearly you're going to hear the drum track (the song)

[kevnin]

the first two channels are almost certainly drum channels, unless there are two band tracks before the instrument channels begin

songs.dtb references AT LEAST channels 0 and 1 for drum tracks, and many (if not most) reference 0-3 for drum tracks.

if you put audio in only tracks 0 and 1, and play the drums, see what happens when you miss notes.

if you play only guitar, then clearly you're going to hear the drum track (the song)

[stupidcarrots]

So, has anyone figured out the customs? if so, lemee know how. I will use that rocklib if I need to, might take me a few attempts to get it right

[stupidcarrots]

So, has anyone figured out the customs? if so, lemee know how. I will use that rocklib if I need to, might take me a few attempts to get it right

[kevnin]

when it happens, you'll know. just chill for now.

[kevnin]

when it happens, you'll know. just chill for now.

[LocalH]

[LocalH]

[pksage]

So we do need a video (even if it's just a black screen) that's the same length as the song?

What program have you been using to generate arbitrary-kbps blackscreen videos, LocalH?

[pksage]

So we do need a video (even if it's just a black screen) that's the same length as the song?

What program have you been using to generate arbitrary-kbps blackscreen videos, LocalH?

[LocalH]

[LocalH]

[kevnin]

localh:

the dvd5 ripkit hack uses vids that are 700kbps. Using 700kbps and eliminating intro movie, and some others (apparently) allow you to (barely) squeeze everything into a dvd5, so don't bother with a 750 kbps stream in your test. I thought i remembered reading the original dev progress thread on alucard that he tried as low as 400 and it ran but looked horrible (not a problem with a black screen though)... so try like 600, 500, 400, 300.

[kevnin]

localh:

the dvd5 ripkit hack uses vids that are 700kbps. Using 700kbps and eliminating intro movie, and some others (apparently) allow you to (barely) squeeze everything into a dvd5, so don't bother with a 750 kbps stream in your test. I thought i remembered reading the original dev progress thread on alucard that he tried as low as 400 and it ran but looked horrible (not a problem with a black screen though)... so try like 600, 500, 400, 300.

[pksage]

It would also be helpful to know what the minimum resolution that can be called "not crappy" is, in case those of us with HDLoaders want to use actual music videos of the song instead of a blackscreen. I doubt I'll do this for many, but you never know.

[pksage]

It would also be helpful to know what the minimum resolution that can be called "not crappy" is, in case those of us with HDLoaders want to use actual music videos of the song instead of a blackscreen. I doubt I'll do this for many, but you never know.